"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Approaching older women

mani99

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Firstly, want to say what a great site and forum...


ok, here's my problem - I want to know how to approach an older women. I don't have a problem approaching women in general, although I have yet to approach one outside a bar/club environment. Ive just started work at a new place and went for lunch at a small sandwich bar... and holy mother of god, I saw the hottest MILF you are likely to see (in my opinion!).

Just wanted your suggestions as how I could go about turning myself from a customer into something more for her.

Thanks...!
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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mani99

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Thanks, I will give that a try and see how it goes... anymore suggestions would be much appreciated.


Will keep you updated on my progress
 

Freddy1

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I'm not too shaby in this area.
WIth older women act mature around them. Being respectful and being nice tend to work well with older women (not so much with younger women though. Its a different animal.).

(hey I went out with my highschool teacher when I was younger. So I speak from my own experience.)

Get alittle "cultured" too. Learn alittle about the world (arts, museums, types of wines etc). At least she see that your not a dumb idiot or anything like that.
 

diablo

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DJ Tips are for giving tips, not asking for them. Please read the description of each section before making future posts. Thanks.

Moved to DJD.
 

TONYMONTANA523

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My theory has been treat every girl the same if you use a certain formula cause shes older youre going to make her feel older. Be who you are and act like it aint nothing and u should be fine.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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