"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Approaching older women

mani99

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Firstly, want to say what a great site and forum...


ok, here's my problem - I want to know how to approach an older women. I don't have a problem approaching women in general, although I have yet to approach one outside a bar/club environment. Ive just started work at a new place and went for lunch at a small sandwich bar... and holy mother of god, I saw the hottest MILF you are likely to see (in my opinion!).

Just wanted your suggestions as how I could go about turning myself from a customer into something more for her.

Thanks...!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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mani99

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Thanks, I will give that a try and see how it goes... anymore suggestions would be much appreciated.


Will keep you updated on my progress
 

Freddy1

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I'm not too shaby in this area.
WIth older women act mature around them. Being respectful and being nice tend to work well with older women (not so much with younger women though. Its a different animal.).

(hey I went out with my highschool teacher when I was younger. So I speak from my own experience.)

Get alittle "cultured" too. Learn alittle about the world (arts, museums, types of wines etc). At least she see that your not a dumb idiot or anything like that.
 

diablo

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DJ Tips are for giving tips, not asking for them. Please read the description of each section before making future posts. Thanks.

Moved to DJD.
 

TONYMONTANA523

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My theory has been treat every girl the same if you use a certain formula cause shes older youre going to make her feel older. Be who you are and act like it aint nothing and u should be fine.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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