"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Approaching at the mall

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what would be a good ice breaker for approaching girls at the mall. not girls in stores, but while they're walking around, going in the opposite direction. i've had many chances, but i've wimped out cuz i'm not sure what to say. all i have problems with is the initial conversation opener. any help is appreciated.

Thanks,
Patrick D
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Bump into em, just smile, wink lol, I dunno, try to get their attention, and carry it on.
 

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Just say hi and start a fuking convo about anything that is positive. It's easy.
 

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Oh here is a good one. "You dropped your smile." And point at the ground in many different and hilarious ways. It's easier to go for the lone wolves and get into seclusion, like an emptyish private store.
 

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ahahah alright then, that's convinced me. hmm i might have to try the "you dropped your smile" line. i'm curious to see if it works. thanks
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Observer, I think I have a couple of good tips for you from my own "mall mackin'" days (hey, blame my friend Patrick for that weird name okay :p )..

#1: Excuse me miss...
The easiest opener and you could use it anywhere, it's acting like you're the new guy in town: "excuse me, do you know where I can find..." this or that type of store that you really know is around there somewhere but which will take her some effort to point out to you.

Then it's easy to go into: wow you know your way well around here, are you like a tour guide or something? her: no, me: well you should be, where do I sign up for your tour honey? I'm Dennis btw, what's your name? Nice to meet me. So you know what? You give the poor old new guy a tour of the mall and I'll buy you a (coffee/tea/coke/whatever she likes), come on! it'll be fun..let's go and I would offer her my arm. Just an example of how you could play it out.

#2: Catering to the girl in her...
What do almost ALL women (and especially girls) love? Fashion, shopping..and you could use that stuff to your advantage (if you've got some guts). Example:

Wow I like that (blablabla she's wearing), then you describe the color and whatever a bit (be detailed, that's all that matters) and then ask: where did you buy it? (let her tell you and say) seriously? Well, I need the help of a fashion queen for this on: my niece is a very picky girl and it's almost her birthday, she only wants clothes! So it would be great if a fashion queen would help me pick some, come on! it'll be fun..let's go shopping. When you're in the store, you off course let HER try everything on, accompany her to the dressing room and all of that and then it's your choice - tease her with whatever she tries on, talk meanwhile and get the contact info, or buy her something inexpensive she tried on and ahve an instant date.

Worked wonders for me :yes: does that help you a bit my man?
 

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San Jose California said:
oh man that sounds cheesey as hell but go ahead and try it lol and post results please I'm interested.
haha yeah i know, which is why i wanna try it, i really got nothing to lose, i'll never see her again anyway.

Dirty D said:
Observer, I think I have a couple of good tips for you from my own "mall mackin'" days (hey, blame my friend Patrick for that weird name okay :p )..

#1: Excuse me miss...
The easiest opener and you could use it anywhere, it's acting like you're the new guy in town: "excuse me, do you know where I can find..." this or that type of store that you really know is around there somewhere but which will take her some effort to point out to you.

Then it's easy to go into: wow you know your way well around here, are you like a tour guide or something? her: no, me: well you should be, where do I sign up for your tour honey? I'm Dennis btw, what's your name? Nice to meet me. So you know what? You give the poor old new guy a tour of the mall and I'll buy you a (coffee/tea/coke/whatever she likes), come on! it'll be fun..let's go and I would offer her my arm. Just an example of how you could play it out.

#2: Catering to the girl in her...
What do almost ALL women (and especially girls) love? Fashion, shopping..and you could use that stuff to your advantage (if you've got some guts). Example:

Wow I like that (blablabla she's wearing), then you describe the color and whatever a bit (be detailed, that's all that matters) and then ask: where did you buy it? (let her tell you and say) seriously? Well, I need the help of a fashion queen for this on: my niece is a very picky girl and it's almost her birthday, she only wants clothes! So it would be great if a fashion queen would help me pick some, come on! it'll be fun..let's go shopping. When you're in the store, you off course let HER try everything on, accompany her to the dressing room and all of that and then it's your choice - tease her with whatever she tries on, talk meanwhile and get the contact info, or buy her something inexpensive she tried on and ahve an instant date.

Worked wonders for me :yes: does that help you a bit my man?
yeah that does, thanks dirty d, lol wierd, my name's patrick.
 

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Dirty D said:
Observer, I think I have a couple of good tips for you from my own "mall mackin'" days (hey, blame my friend Patrick for that weird name okay :p )..

#1: Excuse me miss...
The easiest opener and you could use it anywhere, it's acting like you're the new guy in town: "excuse me, do you know where I can find..." this or that type of store that you really know is around there somewhere but which will take her some effort to point out to you.

Then it's easy to go into: wow you know your way well around here, are you like a tour guide or something? her: no, me: well you should be, where do I sign up for your tour honey? I'm Dennis btw, what's your name? Nice to meet me. So you know what? You give the poor old new guy a tour of the mall and I'll buy you a (coffee/tea/coke/whatever she likes), come on! it'll be fun..let's go and I would offer her my arm. Just an example of how you could play it out.

#2: Catering to the girl in her...
What do almost ALL women (and especially girls) love? Fashion, shopping..and you could use that stuff to your advantage (if you've got some guts). Example:

Wow I like that (blablabla she's wearing), then you describe the color and whatever a bit (be detailed, that's all that matters) and then ask: where did you buy it? (let her tell you and say) seriously? Well, I need the help of a fashion queen for this on: my niece is a very picky girl and it's almost her birthday, she only wants clothes! So it would be great if a fashion queen would help me pick some, come on! it'll be fun..let's go shopping. When you're in the store, you off course let HER try everything on, accompany her to the dressing room and all of that and then it's your choice - tease her with whatever she tries on, talk meanwhile and get the contact info, or buy her something inexpensive she tried on and ahve an instant date.

Worked wonders for me :yes: does that help you a bit my man?
Hahahahah is it me or am I the only one that got that?
 

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I don't remember who first introduced me to this, but I love this one:

just say something like "Oh my god! I havent seen you in forever! how was your summer?" Most people think it would be rude to say "Who are you?". So they go along with it. Eventually, if they ask "Do I know you?" just say no and continue the conversation.
 

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eaglez1177 said:
Hahahahah is it me or am I the only one that got that?
What? The bobbing head at the bottom and the smiling face at the top slightly leaned right?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Ask a girl to dress you is an easy one, best in preppy stores like American Eagle or Hollister or Aeropostale.

Go to the mall with a bunch of friends, by the way. Hitting on girls when you're in a group is less creepy than hanging around the mall alone hitting on girls.

And one advantage of a mall is you will often pass the same people many times if you spend enough time there. Just do something to make them remember you, and its likely they will continue to come to you again when they see you. It only takes one short convo, and then build off it.
 

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What the heck is a dikfore?

And more ideas from you guys as well ;p
 

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haha this is a great thread. i especially like the oh my god i havent seen you in forever one, definitely gonna have to try that.

so heres my two cents:
if she is close by then just ask an opinion, like 'do you think this looks good on me?' or something like that.

also one time i 'purposely' ran into a wall sorta. lol. 'haha i meant to do that' ok so maybe it really was an accident. but it got her laughing and saying 'are you ok?' right away. and you can just build from there. you might also look like an idiot, so use at your own risk lol. but hey, its really not that hard to pull off, and at the least, if you do it right, you cant go wrong really.

that is, just as long as you dont mess up and make it look like you actually did it on purpose just to get her attention... or just an idiot who isnt competent enough to walk straight... then youll just look reallly stupid and desperate... i havent tried this on purpose yet haha.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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