"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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chickenlegs03

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Okay, so I haven't got laid in 4 months, and I feel like I've literally gone from pimp to wimp since moving to a new town. Fvck excuses...I've become lazy and risk-averting. I'm otherwise social/outgoing, but just kept to myself using a 'busy schedule' as an excuse. (I do, however, live in a fairly small town, so it is very easy to run into the same people twice). But I've also not been masturbating for the past 27 days, which certainly adds gasoline to the fire of frustration inside me.

This will be a modified/intense bootcamp for you guys like me, who have really hit a drought and need to get back on their feet. I've really found it helpful to try and accomplish a goal with others...it builds a supportive, encouraging environment, and really helps everyone to succeed. I made another thread yesterday...but I really don't think I could do it alone, not after 4 months. I hope there's others who want to do this.

Here's what I'm thinking it should entail:

Timespan of 2-3 weeks. First 2 days we'll warm-up by greeting girls here and there. Then onto the approaches from there. I'd say 25-40 is a good number for 2-3 weeks. And for approaches, quality of interaction is more important than just going for the number. The goal, however, should be to try to get dates.

I'll be starting on Monday, hopefully by then a few more guys will join me. And please, add ideas, let's work this thing out together.

thanks,
c-legs
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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chickenlegs03 approach journal

I'll be doing 40 approaches in the next two weeks to get my ass back to par. I've been in a 4-month drought of not getting laid. No excuses, I've become lazy and avoided risks. Time to lose the ego, and get my ass back in the game.

I made a thread yesterday (Modified/Advanced BC, Approaches, Challenge?) to see if anyone wants to join me...guess no responses. Oh well, in case you want to join in, I'll just extend the time-period and add more approaches, no prob.

And I'm sorry for any 'psuedo-advice' I may have given anyone up to this point with regards to women. I sincerely apologize if I have mislead anyone with my keyboard-jockey advice. I am really guilty of it, and I will only post in this one thread on the Discussion board until I get myself together again.
 

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5/12/06_
Approach #1 (2 set)

Only got about one opportunity today. Got on the bus in the morning, and saw some girl by herself, but she looked pretty pissed? Apparently her and her friends had got into an argument, so then she goes and sits somewhere else and her two friends pop-up. One is a fat black chick, the other seems like a cute brunette...or so I thought, lol.

Anyway, I had my iPod on, and they were talking, and one of them made fun of the other...I was slightly listening, and it made me laugh. The fat girl was like, "what are you laughing at?" lol, and I just took it from there. Got into a little convo with them, though dry, and joked with them a bit.

Turned out they were in middle school! 7th-8th graders! damn...sheesh, I laughed out loud when they said that. And at that point I just let the conversation die...

...I gotta admit though, one of them was really cute. I feel wrong saying that, but for some reason she just was...even if she was 14. I don't know, girls these days, you have to be careful, looks can really be deceiving.

Anyway, I'm already starting to feel a bit better.
 

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Hey chickenlegs, keep posting. Blackdragon is in for the summer as am I, so let us know what progress you're making. Also, stay far far away from questionably young girls. Don't even play around with that trouble.:nono:
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Good Luck G,

I'll be there very shortly......

P.S - Just got through reading "The Game" by Style (Neil Strauss). HIGHLY recommend it! Really gets you in the right frame of mind for this stuff. Check it out.:up:
 

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Alright bud, I will do this with you, better to have someone to compete with just to add more fuel to the fire.

--Mission
 

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losDJ said:
Hey chickenlegs, keep posting. Blackdragon is in for the summer as am I, so let us know what progress you're making. Also, stay far far away from questionably young girls. Don't even play around with that trouble.:nono:
Ooooh I look forward to reading it. I hope you start soon man. :rockon:
 

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Mission said:
Alright bud, I will do this with you, better to have someone to compete with just to add more fuel to the fire.

--Mission
sweet, thanks.

Yeah, so write a little about yourself, why you're doing this, what you wanna get out of it.

And then just start in this thread on Monday. I'll report here too. Note that I'm going to tell the mods to change the name of the thread to "80 Approaches in 2 Weeks"
 

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^ thanks guys...btw, I'll be sure to check out "the game" next time I'm at B&N.

5/15/06_

Wow, the approach anxiety struck me like a head on train today. I realized I had much more opportunities than I actually took. Damn, I just felt so rusty.

Approach #2

Girl was sitting by herself on a bench reading a book at the bus stop. I just said "hi" and she turned and said "hi"...pretty dry and emotionless. I asked if she was a student (which she said no), and what she was reading..."Da Vinci code" ...very briefly talked about that. Then I had to use the restroom. When I got back I had to get on the bus. I'd told her to watch my stuff for me...wish I'd had more time to extend the convo after I got back.

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When I was walking on campus I noticed a really hottie walking behind me, and after a block or two, I finally turned around and asked, "are you following me?" She smiled and said "no" ...that was gay, and I am very much in need of more practice. I had sooo many other opportunities though to jump into convos or approach but just froze everytime. At least though, I am becoming more observant again...

Overall, though, I did make more conversations with ordinary people. Just trying to get into the vibing, social mood.

I'll do better tomorrow...these first 2 have sucked...gotta get the ball rolling soon.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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A little about me eh.
Well I am 18 years old and live in Canada, I am doing this mostly for fun and so that I can constantly be improving my game, I am deeply competitive so I think that by having someone else to "compete" with will help for sure.
Just a bit about myself personally, I am an avid mountain biker and have had a couple of sponsors, currently I am working as a bartender (great fun) and I am attending University in Victoria next year. I have had quite a few girlfriends since I turned about 15 and mostly joined this community to learn as much as I can, and to get back on my feet after a rough breakup from a serious relationship over a year ago, so now I am fairly deep into the game, and having a great time doing it all.

--Mission
 

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Mission said:
A little about me...
sounds pretty cool. You seem really competitive. I hope you're doing better than me with the approaches...

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As for myself, I think I hit a new low today.

Today was quite a reality check. I realized that not getting laid lately has certainly been my fault alone. I'm so self-defeating and discourage myself out of every possible approach opportunity.

I've notice I have trouble even smiling at girls or people in general...I am sooo different from how I used to be. Man, I can't fvcking relax...I feel so tense, pissed off, like I want to rip someone to shreds. I've noticed I'm developing a temper...perhaps because nothing seems to go right any more.

:cuss:

I updated the thread to just make a point that I haven't forgotten about my goal, I know the deadline is getting closer...It's very much on my mind.
 

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Mission said:
A little about me eh.
Well I am 18 years old and live in Canada, I am doing this mostly for fun and so that I can constantly be improving my game, I am deeply competitive so I think that by having someone else to "compete" with will help for sure.
Just a bit about myself personally, I am an avid mountain biker and have had a couple of sponsors, currently I am working as a bartender (great fun) and I am attending University in Victoria next year. I have had quite a few girlfriends since I turned about 15 and mostly joined this community to learn as much as I can, and to get back on my feet after a rough breakup from a serious relationship over a year ago, so now I am fairly deep into the game, and having a great time doing it all.

--Mission
Not to be d!ckhead agian but I think it would be better if you had your own journal or redo it as Mission and chicken legs apporach journal.

To just jump in someone's Apporach journal and say " hey I'm gonna compete against you" isn't very cool. Apporaching women is about finding your confidence. This is my race. This is self-improvement.

If you are looking for a race to apporaching women then I dare you to challege some of the Dj masters and Pua's around here.
 

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chickenlegs03 said:
sounds pretty cool. You seem really competitive. I hope you're doing better than me with the approaches...

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As for myself, I think I hit a new low today.

Today was quite a reality check. I realized that not getting laid lately has certainly been my fault alone. I'm so self-defeating and discourage myself out of every possible approach opportunity.

I've notice I have trouble even smiling at girls or people in general...I am sooo different from how I used to be. Man, I can't fvcking relax...I feel so tense, pissed off, like I want to rip someone to shreds. I've noticed I'm developing a temper...perhaps because nothing seems to go right any more.

:cuss:

I updated the thread to just make a point that I haven't forgotten about my goal, I know the deadline is getting closer...It's very much on my mind.

Don't give up. Listen to some music about pimpin women. Or a song gets you ready for a fight.

I feel that you have alot of fear for apporaching women. Maybe you should start off saying hi or hey couple times. Once you feel ok just doing that. Then start saying more things.
OR
Get used to starting convos with strangers. ( Anyone men or women )

Chickenlegs Remember this and say this to yourself when you go to apporach.

"If I don't apporach, I won't learn anything."
 

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Blackdragon5095 said:
"If I don't apporach, I won't learn anything."
thanks man, I let that statement really ring through my head today.

5/17/06_

This morning on the way to class, I said "hi" to a girl I walked by. From that experience, I learned that I should talk more loudly/clearly.

Approach #3
At the bus stop, I saw this girl waiting for the bus door to open. So I finally muster it up to go stand next to her, and we looked at each other...though with shades on so I couldn't see her eyes really. On the bus, I purposely sat in a seat close to hers, to the side. Damn, I hesitated sooo much on this, but I was finally like, "you headed downtown?"

It was as if she had been waiting for me to talk to her. And she was like "I work downtown, blah blah blah," and I told her about how I work, etc. And soon the bus stopped and I was like, "have a good one," and we parted, but she was headed the same direction as me off the bus, so I asked, "what's your name?" And she said, "blah" and I was like, "my name is c-legs," and shook her hand and it took her 2 tries to pronounce it right. And I was like, "ya know, because I'll probably run into you again or something." She seemed really friendly/smiley.

It felt really great, and the rest of my day I felt elevated and just plain ballsy. Anyway, I think 40 approaches could be difficult to squeeze in, but I will do my best to make it...especially now that I got this one under my belt.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Blackdragon5095 said:
To just jump in someone's Apporach journal and say " hey I'm gonna compete against you" isn't very cool. Apporaching women is about finding your confidence. This is my race. This is self-improvement.
thanks Black...but I actually asked for some competition, and I was hoping it could get me off my ass more if someone was doing it with me.

by the way, Mission, where you at? I hope you're still at.

^and thanks Microphone, for the support.
 

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flows101 said:
hey chickenlegs03 keep up the good work man its good to know more and more people are going out in to the field plus a few other people are doing this aswell like me and blackdragon5095 so your not alone :D
That's awesome, especially since you guys also have your approach numbers written in your sig's like myself.

Anyway, had a pretty hectic day today and nearly figured that there were no chances to approach...I just didn't see any girls, and didn't have much time overall...was constantly running back and forth from class/work, etc.

5/18/06_

Approach #4
Still, what da ya know, I rarely run into anyone in the elevator these days in my apartment complex, but today I did. So, I walked in and pressed the button and noticed a girl walk in with me.

I just turned to her and said, "hi"

She totally was not expecting someone to start a conversation with her in the elevator (though this is something I used to do all the time). She kind of turned to me and said "hi" back, and took off her shades. Here's how the convo went from there...

Me: "yeah...hey, I've barely met anyone here besides my roommates..."
Her: "oh yeah? when did you move in?"
Me: "Blah blah"
Her: "Oh, I didn't know you could move in blah blah...so where did you transfer from?"
Me: "Blah"
<out of the elevator>
Her: "Oh really? I have cousins that live there...they live in blah city...yeah I've only been there once"
Me: "Oh really? That's cool"
Her: "Yeah, it seems the people there are much friendlier..."
Me: "Yeah, they're much more open, it seems"

And basically after that she was going a different direction and I asked her name (she really wasn't expecting me to after such a short conversation I guess - seemed surprised) and I told her mine. Then we said bye and parted.

Overall, not bad. I'm just getting back into the habit of taking up opportunities. :cheer:
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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