"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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bass_slappin

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i'm relatively successful with girls have been told im pretty good looking and am pretty happy with myself, but there is one thing i definitely need advice on. I'm pretty good in conversation with a girl once te conversation gets rolling but i'm terrible at initiating a good conversation or initial contact at all. any advice would be appreciated. thanks
 
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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a little addition: i have non sexual/non advance type conversations with girls all the time, i was wondering how to convey that i might be interested
 

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read the HS bible, it's stickied at the top of the forum. you'll get everything on approaching, conversation starting, and kino. it won't give you a step by step guide, but it gives you a good idea of what you should do. good luck.
 

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Don't have a "normal conversation" with a woman you're trying to sleep with. You want to joke around with them and tease them, not have safe convos about grades and the weather. If you say you've been having friendly conversation, with no advancement or sexual innuendo on your part, you have probably already been placed into the "friend category" and she won't be able to picture you as boyfriend material, let alone picture having sex with you.

Don't be afraid to talk about sex. It conveys sexual confidence and girls (secretly) love talking about it.

As far as initiating conversations, just practice. We all have approach anxiety sometimes, just suck it up and go for it. Be a man.
 

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Don't have a "normal conversation" with a woman you're trying to sleep with. You want to joke around with them and tease them, not have safe convos about grades and the weather. If you say you've been having friendly conversation, with no advancement or sexual innuendo on your part, you have probably already been placed into the "friend category" and she won't be able to picture you as boyfriend material, let alone picture having sex with you.
yea i understand that and i have already accepted that ive made these mistakes i was mainly talking about new girls that ive had limited or no contact with at all. ye ai think you were right about approach anxiety it was a pretty good diagnosis.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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