"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Apologizing
- Thread starter Freddy1
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Mr. Unique
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Teflon_Mcgee
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Yes? Apologize.
No? Don't apologize.
Mr_knowit_all
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It really depends. I personally don't think anything constructive comes out of apologizing. It will definitely lower your value to her, and if you did something so egregious that an apology is truly warranted, I think it would ring hollow anyway.Teflon_Mcgee said:
Skilla_Staz
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They buy it. It's true, but I rarely f*ck up enough to need to fix it.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
THE_ADDMAN
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otherwise, dont.
dipset_mafia
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coffee date:...
"you're late!"
"I see you've started without me, what kind did you get?" give her a smile and continue with your game.. she won't be pissed if you don't ALLOW her to feel like you've done something wrong by admitting it through apology.
apologize and u put an akward tone on things, like you owe her something.. fck that..
you break something of hers? offer to replace it, don't apologize... you need to cancel a date? just do it, you aren't really "sorry" are you?...
things that warrant an apology... ****ing her best friend, cheating period... killing her pet on purpose.. lol... kicking her brothers ass (sorry babe, he deserved that sh!t..) haha..
say anything to avoid the apology, short of lying.
Teflon_Mcgee
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Not if you have a strong enough frame.Mr_knowit_all said:
Agree to disagree?
BTW, I don't recommend apologizing for trivial stuff or stupid girl drama.
We're on the same page there.
If you apologise, unlike with a friend, she's liable to always remember it. As someone else said, its a DLV as it comes across as failing.
If you don't apologies for something serious, its a jerk move and if a friend acted like that to me I'd be pissed. With women though, not apologising seems to show dominance and can cause a lot of women to re-evaluate the situation, maybe he's not wrong. I don't like it but can't deny its effectiveness having seen friends keep gfs while doing **** that should get them dumpled. e.g cheating, being drunk all the time.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
