Any thread in this forum with a successful end ?

[Igetit!]

@Trump
@flowtheory

Ok,I will....just be a little patient though. Just got home from work,so I'm a tad bit tired.

But I promise I'll post them.

 

[BeExcellent]

You’re too modest BE, dont forget to include yourself in the list.

You were a shy little beta when you showed up, but then you developed an IDGAF attitude, started lifting, developed your confidence, etc. And look just how far you’ve come!

Now you’re spinning plates and banging HB 9’s and 10’s left and right!

-Augustus-

Awww Shucks Augustus.

Honestly I do A-OK out there in dating land. Decades ago I was painfully shy (hard to grasp now I know), and knew how to be a cool tomboy type and had no idea whatsoever I was pretty (that was NOT emphasized at all in my household growing up). So I get the awkwardness and so forth that some of the guys here experience because I went through a rather awkward stage in my late teens/early 20s where I didn't really understand too much about men - and I was ridiculously naive. I knew what a MAN was (thanks Dad) but didn't know how to interact with men romantically really. I knew how to be their pal. I missed lots of cues and I was clueless. My girlfriends all laughed at me until they realized I seriously had no idea. NO idea. Then they helped educate me. Thank God. And I had a college BF I learned a great deal from, until we broke up.

Over time as I began to better understand myself, social calibration, value and etc. I began to see behavioral patterns that were predictable. I began to trust my role in shaping an interaction. I became fascinated by the way people interact in male/female interactions, and I was also regularly in the nightlife, eventually in that business through my ex-husband, which that was an enlightening experience I wouldn't trade. Sometimes still things are rather eye-opening, and sometimes I try and add perspective where it might be useful to hear from the Ladies' Locker Room as it were. (To be frank I remain stunned by some of the entitlement attitudes I see from women out there). As if they are God's gift...(yes I see the irony in that statement because of how some perceive me here)...

If a geek like me can become very desirable and stay that way all the way to pushing 50 despite life's curve balls there is hope for everyone here, Trust me.

And I'm pleased you've found a good one Augustus. Couldn't happen to a better dude. Cheers!

 

[NSX-R]

99% of the threads asking for advice is only on how to bang a chick in the end or land a date with her .

Ok many guys are afcs into the core but if you tell them the way , even afcs can bang the hottest woman in the world .
Even though always the poster explains the situation and always has a prologue, the only answer is , eject , spin more plates , next , spin more plates , do your shyt blah blah.

This is counter productive.

How can a thread be successful? If the op wanted to fck the chick and wanted advice on how to proceed, eventually he fcks the chick because of posters advices. That's a succesfull thread .

If there was a thread where some guy asks how to become a player and after some time updates the thread when he has already become a player because of posters advices then that's also a successful thread .

Honestly the same information is getting recycled all the time in this forum since the days of pook and mrchancealot and very few members do something new or take themselves into the field. I can count those members on my fingers and i only need one hand to count them all .

80% of the posters giving advice, have no idea on what they talk about and they only recycle what they read in the bible or others threads .

 

[mrgoodstuff]

True. Most of the guys asking for advice are trying to win the attention of a low interest girl which rarely ends in succeeds since she’s getting 1000’s of guys messaging her on OLD every day. The guys here asking for advice have a scarcity mindset.

If you ask for advice about a specific girl, you’ve already lost.

It means your pursuing. My advise in that situation has changed to start effing someone else, and don't respond to her unless she's trying to hook up. The females have to choose.

 

[Augustus_McCrae]

Awww Shucks Augustus.

Honestly I do A-OK out there in dating land. Decades ago I was painfully shy (hard to grasp now I know), and knew how to be a cool tomboy type and had no idea whatsoever I was pretty (that was NOT emphasized at all in my household growing up). So I get the awkwardness and so forth that some of the guys here experience because I went through a rather awkward stage in my late teens/early 20s where I didn't really understand too much about men - and I was ridiculously naive. I knew what a MAN was (thanks Dad) but didn't know how to interact with men romantically really. I knew how to be their pal. I missed lots of cues and I was clueless. My girlfriends all laughed at me until they realized I seriously had no idea. NO idea. Then they helped educate me. Thank God. And I had a college BF I learned a great deal from, until we broke up.

Over time as I began to better understand myself, social calibration, value and etc. I began to see behavioral patterns that were predictable. I began to trust my role in shaping an interaction. I became fascinated by the way people interact in male/female interactions, and I was also regularly in the nightlife, eventually in that business through my ex-husband, which that was an enlightening experience I wouldn't trade. Sometimes still things are rather eye-opening, and sometimes I try and add perspective where it might be useful to hear from the Ladies' Locker Room as it were. (To be frank I remain stunned by some of the entitlement attitudes I see from women out there). As if they are God's gift...(yes I see the irony in that statement because of how some perceive me here)...

If a geek like me can become very desirable and stay that way all the way to pushing 50 despite life's curve balls there is hope for everyone here, Trust me.

And I'm pleased you've found a good one Augustus. Couldn't happen to a better dude. Cheers!

But you’re our geek BE. The dorky lil sister we let into the tree house.

-Augustus-

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Been in sosuave many years now . I have seen many many threads and noticed something very very common with most of the threads .

Any guy who asked for some advice for a certain girl , in the end he didn't score.

So many dating gurus in here and not a single thread where every advice given was successful.

Why's that?

An overly analytical approach in the world of romance is rather ridiculous. There is a higher reason that reason knows not of.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

The issue comes with our societys rampant belief of wanting a "quick fix." There is no quick fix for big problems. It may be successful at times, but will fail at others. When a man comes here and understands that consistent success is based on personal responsibility, the growth will be exponential. If he caters his growth to narrowminded "quick fixes", success will be incremental at best.

I would compare this to the Florida high school shooting. Gun control will not fix the problem with youth believing they are the harbingers of death to a decaying society. Yet... the focus is on gun control...

You still seem to thinking in terms of a 'quick fix' even if negatively.

The point is gun control would reduce the amount of incidents. You are looking for real restraints/ constraints on something.... as opposed to complete eradication...the ideal.

 

[Spaz]

99% of the threads asking for advice is only on how to bang a chick in the end or land a date with her .

Ok many guys are afcs into the core but if you tell them the way , even afcs can bang the hottest woman in the world .
Even though always the poster explains the situation and always has a prologue, the only answer is , eject , spin more plates , next , spin more plates , do your shyt blah blah.

This is counter productive.

How can a thread be successful? If the op wanted to fck the chick and wanted advice on how to proceed, eventually he fcks the chick because of posters advices. That's a succesfull thread .

If there was a thread where some guy asks how to become a player and after some time updates the thread when he has already become a player because of posters advices then that's also a successful thread .

Honestly the same information is getting recycled all the time in this forum since the days of pook and mrchancealot and very few members do something new or take themselves into the field. I can count those members on my fingers and i only need one hand to count them all .

80% of the posters giving advice, have no idea on what they talk about and they only recycle what they read in the bible or others threads .

You hv a point there tadpole.

You forgot to add that they watch too many UTube red pill channels then think it's gods gift to mankind, spreads it around SS like it's gospel.

 

[Spaz]

Sosuave doesn’t like success stories, they like break up and victim stories.

Success stories means the poster is more successful than the postee. Annoys them to no end. That’s why the slightest hiccup in any situation is ‘move on, spin plates, don’t commit.’

PRINCE Harry fully and completely and utterly commits his life and soul to a 36+ divorced women and marries her because he is in love. He gets destroyed by SS members. A regular poster doesn’t stand a chance.

I guess it's normal for some men to want a 2nd mommy..

No issues with it at all. Anyone in SS that's feels deprived of mommy love phulease marry an older women, she'll fulfil that role.

And when you do come back here saying it's all been a horrible mistake, we'll advice you once more, don't worry.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

I'm still surprised that the Church of England allowed him to marry a divorced woman.

 

[Serenity]

Most of my threads didn't end well, but they didn't end as bad as most predicted. I didn't come here to patch up specific incidents, I came here for a long term solution. I didn't expect advice that would help me right then and there, I expected advice that would serve me for years to come.

A few years ago I technically got into a relationship with a girl (had the exclusivity talk), I made a thread about how I was going against a good amount of advice given here. I even bought her a diamond necklace after 1 month, I cringe so hard about that today. As the thread evolved I updated everyone on how it was going, even when it was going straight down the sh!tter. I had been here for a while then already, but I didn't have solid relationship experience and had mostly focused on getting a girl (which I had become decent at). She became distant, I confronted her by literally asking "do you even like me?" to which the answer was exactly what I thought it would be, no.

Just 6 months after that cringey mess I met my now fiancée. I had come to a point where I was genuinely drained by focusing on women, all I wanted was to feel good and have fun. With that in mind I went out with some friends, some of which were women who brought friends I didn't know. I didn't bother trying to pick them up, I was in a good mood and didn't want to ruin that by doing the same sh!t I had been doing the past couple of years. I wasn't even trying, she was even the kinda shy type and for some reason we just clicked. I took her home, we had a good time and after she went home the next day I didn't expect hearing from her again. I didn't bother contacting her, I was done with all that stuff for a while.

Then she sent a text saying she had a good time and would like to see me again. I saw it immediately, but I took 3 hours responding to it. Not because of game, I was arguing with myself whether I really wanted to bother risking my peace once again. I decided on giving it a try and expect nothing. Said she could come to my place, have some food and see where it goes, thought she'd go silent. I was wrong, she came and we had a really good time. Ever since it has just been almost 3 years now of awesomeness.

Point is that success doesn't happen in the same thread, it comes later when the experiences are absorbed and the lessons learned. My final lesson learned before reaching my goal (get a good LTR) was that happiness is #1 priority and no woman is needed to enjoy life. Pull out hard if a woman brings bad feelings.

I got lucky she was the right one, but I was paranoid for 6 months, going over interactions in my head looking for red flags. I found none and I looked really damn hard. My standards are pretty high, there's some things that would be an instant deal breaker, but none has ever occurred. It took a long time to build trust, but what we built is rock solid.

There is success, but you'll have to widen your attention span to notice it.

 

[marmel75]

Been in sosuave many years now . I have seen many many threads and noticed something very very common with most of the threads .

Any guy who asked for some advice for a certain girl , in the end he didn't score.

So many dating gurus in here and not a single thread where every advice given was successful.

Why's that?

Because typically the guy has already screwed up badly, the woman clearly is not interested in him, he is not skilled enough to implement the advice properly or he flat out refuses to listen to it.

Its like trying to teach calculus to a first grader. They need to learn how to add 2+2 first.

It takes a lot of failures before you will find successes. Anyone who claims differently is full of sh!t.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I wouldn’t mind seeing those

We need to see those. Most of the time the guy is hard headed and does what he wants to do anyways.

Most of the failure cases are the guy pursuing a low interested female. And he wants to try a bunch of maneuvers and tricks to raise her interest.

 

[Spaz]

@Grewd has explained it well. No need to comb the threads for prove.

If you've got experience with women and successes with them, you'll know women will throw a curveball even when things seem perfect, it's how you react towards it that makes the difference.

SS will teach anyone here to be forewarned of certain traits that women display. It also forewarn a man of his own traits that needs polishing and refining.

Success with women = Knowledge (from SS and own experiences) + how you execute it or do things.

Little knowledge = little success
Lack ability to execute = lack of success

 

[Serenity]

it's how you react towards it that makes the difference.

It is surprising how many people do not grasp this concept at all. This goes along with how a situation is does not matter as much as how it is perceived, which I'd say makes it easier to react in a good way.

Happiness is the ultimate goal, but it is a state of mind rather than a quality of reality. Many guys think they need a woman to be happy and thus make reckless choices regarding their life partner out of desperation. It's basically denying oneself to feel good because reason X, or in that case because they have no woman. But what is the easiest way to achieve the ultimate goal? Getting a woman by depending on external variables or remove the completely internal imaginary barrier? It's only when the internal resistance is gone that a need turns into just a mild desire. When we stop depending on external factors for happiness and instead rely on internally managing expectations and perceptions.

I mean, it's been echoed for years on this forum. Don't change the world, change yourself. Still there's no shortage of guys blaming sh!t in the world they never will have the power to fix.

 

[logicallefty]

The title of the thread "Any thread with a successful end?".

It depends. What does the person who created the thread consider a "success"?

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BINGO. Success may not be getting in her pants. But rather, protecting assets, reputation, time with children, and mental health from female damage. IMO that is greater success than getting in her pants. But then again I am one of those 'older' guys here who has been raked through the coals, after the dog p|ssed on them first... Maybe I am wrong.

 

[Igetit!]

Alright......

Took me a while. I automatically knew of three instances right off the bat. I tried to find more,and I'm sure there are more....but damn...sifting through 10 years (my time here) of pages and threads......was rough. For some reason the farther back I went,it stopped highlighting the threads that I myself posted in,and trying to check in each one to see if I commented when there's like thousands of posts and threads....darn near impossible. But anyway.....

First I wanna say that when I say the guy "got" the girl,I mean got her out on a date. Most of the threads are of guys trying to date a girl and her playing games and giving him the run-a-round. I don't know what happened after he finally "got" her out...don't know if they had a fling,got married and rode off into the sunset or what.

The first two threads are DEAD ON.....the guy actually got the chick. The last,the guy was able to get the girl to stop acting a fool and show interest back.

The best way to understand what the situations were is to first.....

read the initial post
after that,I'll say which reply to skip down to,to where the advice was given....
then I'll point out the reply you can skip down to,to where the OP came back and posted his results. Thread number 1.....

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/what-now.163919/

Read the initial post...then skip down to reply #17 where he got advised,might be good to check out #18 as well.....check out reply #27....then the final result in reply #31. Thread number 2.......

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/girl-with-a-crazy-work-schedule-how-do-i-make-this-work.161073/


Check out the initial post so you can know what's going on.....skip down to post #5 to see where he got advised,check out 6 and 7 as well...check out #14,which was the final result. Can glance at 16 and 17 as well. Thread number 3.....


http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/girl-me.148393/

Read the first post.....then #2,#4....then skip down to #16. This one was sort of "meh",but it looked to be headed in the right direction.


There are some other threads here that were successes,that I personally know of,and I could link them...but the problem is,the guys asking for advice,they came to me by private message. The thread they were seeking help for can be linked,but I can't link my inbox to show the conversations and what all went down.

 

[Bayne05]

Taking advice is easy, doing it isn't. And besides, success stories usually come from those who are looking to improve their skills with women in general rather than trying to game one particular girl.

 

[ohrein]

Any thread in which someone improves, even if it's a tiny degree, is a successful end. Keep improving in tiny degrees and eventually you're suddenly much better than you were. This place worked miracles for me personally. I consider my current life a successful end. But I choose not to measure my success in terms of women anymore, since the real lesson has made women secondary. That said, I'm dating the highest quality woman I've dated in my life now and feel in control as much as I can be. Still learning but a lot of women I met these days point out how much of a catch I am and huge chunks of that are a result of the advice from here. I grew up without a masculine figure and didn't even begin to understand I had an issue until my early twenties. A decade later and I'm the happiest I've been. I consider that a successful end.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Taking advice is easy, doing it isn't. And besides, success stories usually come from those who are looking to improve their skills with women in general rather than trying to game one particular girl.

I don't agree. The common complaint guys are stubborn about involves them wanting a specific babe but she's not interested enough .