This is a message to Drummer Dude, who can't read. My responses were based on THE WOMAN TELLING YOU BEFORE SEX, SHE HAS SOMETHING. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN KNOWINGLY CONTRACTING AN STD, AND UNKNOWINGLY. THIS GUY ALREADY KNOWS SHE HAS IT.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Do it if you enjoy getting your throat slit by meHeyPachuco! said:Middle finger to the requirements dude.
Seriously, whats going to stop me from entering and replying in the Mature Man Forum? Fvcking please.
And sophomoric, I'd say I've matured a littler more than you in some departments, gathering you're still a virgin at 27.. Whats you're excuse?
Stop beating you're chest around here, I might just run a train wreck on you're church nuns dude.
The point then DEFINITELY went over your head.Drum&Bass said:Your from New jersey. I use to live in NJ, that is a densely packed SMALL state !! STD's are running rampant like crazy where you are. If you have had sex with anyone besides yourself, theres a HUGE chance you already have something. If you meet a girl at the bar that you find attractive and she finds you attractive and you somehow manage to take her home, what are you gonna do, ask her when was the last time she had an STD check up and then verify her paper work ?? No one knows who has what...not even people who have some shit know that they have something
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Amen to that. If she were truly a person of low caliber, she'd lie about it.godofanxiety said:You have every right not to sleep with someone who you know has herpes, but calling her a skank for her honesty is too much.
Chlamydia is bacterial and can be CURED with antibiotics. If one girl says she CURRENTLY has it, then it needs to be taken care of. I would wait until you get the paperwork saying she's "cured" before going anywhere near it. And even then, she probably ought to get tested for other crap while she's at it. If she's got THAT, she's probably been having unprotected sex and may have other non-symptomatic diseases (HIV, Herpes, etc).boynamedsue said:Luckily I'm disease free, however two plates I'm spinning have mentioned something to me. (I've had sex with each of them once both times with a condom). One told me she has clamidia and the other told me she has herpes. Both are pretty cute but I'm paranoid about doing anything more with them. I consider myself to be lucky for not having anything bc I've banged a lot of skanks in my day.(got tested 2 weeks ago). Have any of u dealt wiith these stds?
If you've ever had a wart anywhere, you have SOME strain of HPV. Some manifest as warts on the fingers, others manifest as plantar (foot) warts. Only certain strains can affect the genitals...which is why if you get a wart on your finger, you try not to jerk off with that hand.Solomon said:So what I gather is HPV is common and you can catch it even if you wear a rubber. Whether the girl is breaking out with the warts or not.
I had a girl call me tonight saying she found out she had HPV and we hooked up two weeks ago....yikes
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
I know 5 people with herpes. One recently had such a bad outbreak that she couldn't wear pants for a day.Drum&Bass said:DRAMA !! herpes is skin condition. The images you see online are always worse case scenarios with people have HIV or compromised immune systems. Companies do this intentionally to scare people into going to doctors and spending money on prescriptions. REALITY is...a majority of STD's don't look anywhere near as severe as an image you might find online.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.