"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Any girl been freaked out by kino?

i am me

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Have any of you guys tried kino but the girl gets all freaked out?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Wiesman44

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Kino is not meant to freak out. All it is is touching. Now if you did ass kino from the dj bible, i can see how she could get freaked out. I've never had a girl get freaked out b/c I dont use too much of it around a girl. I use just enough to be able to tease her, and have her notice I am touching her.
 

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If a girl isnt interested, she isnt gonna let her touch you, or even let you get close to her...She probably wasnt interested...
 

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i didnt say i did it. i never really used it so i just wanna make sure
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Hahah, yea. I was having a tequila drinking night at my friend's house. We invited a girl over, but she didn't drink. I was planning on hitting in with the girl but i didn't have much courage. I was sitting on the couch right next to her. And as i was getting drunker I decided to move closer to her. I sat so close that our azzes touched. She moved away with a kneejerk reaction. Then I decided to put my hand around her. She kind of leaned away when she saw it coming. After a couple of more shots of tequila and bottles of beer I went to puke in the bathroom. After my quick recovery I went back and repeatedly tried that sitting and hand routine. Not sure if that was kino in the definition but it was sure awkward.
 

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I have been labled 'touchy feely'

lesson learned here- dont use it to little, but dont use it too much
 

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i don't do kino. i do however "invade her space" - I progressively keep standing physically close to her or bumping into her. eventually holding her hand and etc will come naturally. a girl that is not interested will show "uncomfortable" body language.
 
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Originally posted by i am me
Have any of you guys tried kino but the girl gets all freaked out?
ive done kino and the girl is totall non- responsive, and hell i know it wasnt bad cause i did the same **** to the other chicks and they all liked it.
 

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Yeah, i think everyones had some bad kino experiences.

I've also been described as 'touchy feely'. One time a girl i've talked to once or twice saw me in a bar, we got chatting (i'd had a bit to drink) & i pointed something out to her across the room, & as i did so, i put my arm a round her. This just came naturally & no concious thought was involved at all.
she gave a shocked & suprised & slightly anoyed / disapointed in me look, & politly made excuses & left quickly.

I've had a few similar things happen. But, it's anoying. Ethier girls think i kino too much (even if it's just my inate reaction, & it's VERY light stuff), or other girls are obviously disapionted that i'm not doing it enough & have to lead in terms of kino progression.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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sumtimes the chick can jus be a tease, i say go get other chicks, when she sees this shell realize maybe being a tease wont get u any closer.
 

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I've had a bad one here and there

It comes with learning on how to handle kino in the right times.

Crossposted from archieve

Lastly (these are the types of memories I almost cry over), same girl before finding this site I tried this when I asked her out. I touched her leg and she gave me all sort of red flags. It was like flag day in China. I thought she said yes when in fact she said no (Something I did not plan on. Wishful thinking I guess. Ego? Most likely "Lust") I was in a euphoric state for that entire weekend. "Happiest time in my life" Was what I was saying to myself. Hell I had an LTR planned out in my head. On a monday, I went and talked to her and she was surrounded by her possy of friends. She got her b!tchiest friend to tell me "where do you think Tina is going out with you"
"She told me on Friday"
Well your lying because she would never go out with you and that she was not going out with me. Think you got that"
This is where I should have saved some face by saying "yeah I got that your a fat b!tch. Try and lose some fvcken weight, drugbag."
I walked away from there and went to my table. Put my head down and started crying (last time I did cry), thinking of suicide, pushing my friends away, etc.
Tuesday, I apologized for asking her out I then just tried to touch her again. And she backs away, turns around, and walks away. then that night I wrote a poem for her that night but never gave it to her. Thank God.

That about does my experiences if I think of anymore I will write them down.
 
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