spesmilitis
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I am a Chemical Engineer.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Any engineers here?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
shop until I die!
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SmoothTalker
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I wanted to be a computer engineer but couldn't handle the university work load. Well.. I could handle it in terms of getting decent grades, but I was too miserable to do 4 more years of that.
Teflon_Mcgee
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No, but getting close.
EE and I'm over the hump.
EE and I'm over the hump.
Speculator E
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Cool. Are you working or in school? I'm a Chem E senior.spesmilitis said:
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Naughtyboy
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I'm an electronics and telecommunication engineer
But currently working in a sales position in an altogether different field
But currently working in a sales position in an altogether different field
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
kdnash82
Master Don Juan
Systems Engineer.... I deal in military computer systems... no certs, no degrees
SmoothTalker
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kdnash82, can you explain the system down there? Up here engineering is a controlled profession, and you're only legally allowed to call yourself an engineer if you have the P. Eng designation which you earn by having an undergrad engineering degree and relevant work experience, then passing an exam, and some other little stuff.
It's like doctors. Just because you know a thing or two about the body, you're not a doctor unless you have a license.
Is anyone allowed to call themselves an engineer if they do 'engineering' work in the US?
It's like doctors. Just because you know a thing or two about the body, you're not a doctor unless you have a license.
Is anyone allowed to call themselves an engineer if they do 'engineering' work in the US?
kdnash82
Master Don Juan
To tell you the truth, I've never thought about it. It's the position I hold with the company. It's the title they gave me. So maybe you're right.SmoothTalker said:
When I look online and I see what a systems engineer makes in San Diego, CA, and I compare it to my salary, I'm at the top tier of that scale.
To be honest with you, they could say my title was custodian. As long as I was still working with military computer systems and making the money that a systems engineer makes, it really wouldn't matter.
I guess you could say the same thing about custodians though huh?
ready123
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Yeah here in the US, the term in engineer is used wayyy more loosely than in any other country. You don't need the PE cert to be considered an engineer here, only the work experience. You go to Europe and tell them you're an engineer and you don't have licensing, they'll laugh at you. For us guys in the US working tech, this probably not a good thing, but it is what it isSmoothTalker said:
I'm EE, used to work as Test Engineer in Semiconductors, now back in grad school going for a Masters EE
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Teflon_Mcgee
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It's the same here.SmoothTalker said:
Only after an 4 year degree (with few exceptions), passing the fundementals of eng. exam, working for a designated time (usually 4 years) under a professional eng., and passing the P.E. exam with references can you offer your services as an engineer.
Of course anyone can call themselves engineers. As long as the context is clear and they aren't doing work under the guise of an engineer.
I.e. a custodial engineer or sanitation engineer.
Blurring the line are titles like software engineer.
Those working for a company under the supervision of a professional engineer are somewhat exempt as the company is th entity that is represented and responsible for any work the engineer does.
This may differ if the any project has any affect on public safety.
It also varies by state.
And like practicing medicine or law without a license, the same thing applies to engineering. It is punishable by law.
spesmilitis
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Working, graduated in June. I could offer one piece of advice to you, go to every company information session and at the end, ask for a business card. When you decide to apply for jobs, you'll then have contacts in the industry. Also, the sooner you interview jobs, the more likely you'll get a higher salary.Speculator E said:
Loves it. Very hard though. And not for everyone. If I were you, I would look at the course descriptions for the required courses of all the science and engineering majors and see if you want to learn what they teach in those courses. Some of the course descriptions can be confusing, so let me know if you have any questions.Neubie said:
SmoothTalker
Master Don Juan
Reading course descriptions is a good tip, I just want to add a warning. Don't be fooled if the course descriptions sound easy. I thought so as a lot of the material looked like review of high school stuff. The difference is that its at a much much deeper level.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.