"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Heres my situation. I have a roommate who ive recently developed strong feelings for. We've been living together for almost a year and i found her repulsive from every standpoint for the first 6 months, but after spending alot of time with her ive noticed she has a lot more going on than she lets on. My feelings for her came out weakly in txts at 4am a couple of times. She replied "I had no idea", and "I think of you as a good friend or else i wouldn't have told you have the things i did." She is always very different around me though, im the only guy who she stiffens up if i try to give her a hug hello or goodbye. I was looking for signs and thought she was giving them, but i guess i was wrong. Anyways, i do actually enjoy spending time with her as a friend when there isn't that tension of knowing that the other person likes you. How do i dumb down these feelings i have for her. By the way, the dirtbags that she is attracted to is not even funny, and because of my jealousy i found this website and have been doing the boot camp weeks in days instead, very good results. The quotes and advice in their is great. Im at week 3 which i will do tonight.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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The dirt bag she is attracted to is funny. She thinks he's funny. You were texting eachother at 4am, while under the same roof? This has to be one of the most AFC things I've read here, and believe me, I've read a lot of chump stories.
 

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Yeah, that is messed up. I was wasted and it was a moment of desperation. Thats why i never txt girls as of a couple days ago. They see it as to impersonal. And this doesn't apply to just her.
 

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glad to see your learning. Try reading the DJ Bible.
 

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soxfan31 said:
Yeah, that is messed up. I was wasted and it was a moment of desperation. Thats why i never txt girls as of a couple days ago. They see it as to impersonal. And this doesn't apply to just her.

How old are both of you?
 

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You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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23 years old. The thing is, she came on to me when i didn't like her, and since has cooled off. And when i see something i want, i work to get it. In this case i worked to hard and when i didn't get anywhere i always tried to get in one last comment or whatnot, thats where the txts would come in.
 

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thats what im trying to do, but she is almost purposely directing her attention to everyone else other than me when we are out. We are good friends, but everytime i playfully touch her, she gets all weirded out, and its standard kino. I want what i can't have apparently. Plus she lost a lot of weight since i met her, do you think that is why she is put off by me, because i rejected her advance when she was thicker and she possibly is pissed inside that im attracted to her now that she is skinnier?
 

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i would tell you to sarge alot but then that still kinda wont work consiidering you guys ****ing live together. Honestly I would just stop trying Its almost imposibble to not have sex with someone living with you . I think she's just trying to play hard to get. Just forget about it Keep doing the bootcamp stuff Stop texting her you live with her lol just try to get intimate with her touch her alot even if she gets wiered out most times when i touch girls at first their wierded but i just keep doing it and its like they cant control their sexual urges because after a while they start touching me and then you know the rest. She was just wierded out because she saw you as an afc but a touch is sexual and dj she'll get used to it trust me.
 
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Gangster Of Love said:
The dirt bag she is attracted to is funny. She thinks he's funny. You were texting eachother at 4am, while under the same roof? This has to be one of the most AFC things I've read here, and believe me, I've read a lot of chump stories.
Being funny doesn't get you the girls, how funny is Tommy Lee, how nice is he, think about this. :mad:
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Im a man, but thats pretty messed up. But jtrain makes a lot of sense. thanks buddy, look for me to post updates on my boot camp ****.
 

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HaremMasterThomas said:
Being funny doesn't get you the girls, how funny is Tommy Lee, how nice is he, think about this. :mad:
Tommy Lee is and acts like a big kid when he's around the hotties. He is fun, funny, and wild. In fact, it was Style, who wrote a biography on Motley Crew, and spent time with those guys on the road, who described Tommy in those words.

Funny gets you very far. Just funny by itself, won't cut it though. Anything by itself won't cut. Stop worrying about semantics and be smart about it. Good looking by itself will only get you so far, funny by itself, etc. If you are sending text messages at 4am while under the same roof, won't matter if you are or aren't funny.

There is funny while being attractive, manly, alpha, and then there is goofy type of funny, goofy while being non sexually threatening. Try the earlier.
 
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