"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Any 7 on hotornot that are DJs?

david90

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What is your ratio? I'm a 7 also and I think its hurting my game.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Giovanni Casanova

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I'm a 6 and my game is fine. Quit whining.
 

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I have been ranked by girls anywhere between 6 to 8. Cute, but not male model looks.

The cutoff for "male model" looks when the girls start to CREAM their pants when they see you is around 8.5, imo.
 

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Hotornot rating is 9.6. My looks help, but i see it as the "game" that gets it done. Plus looks can always be improved.
 

dockta

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Without sounding like a FAG... i wouldnt mind seeing your "9.6" pic?

Post when ready
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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FYI - your hotornot rating is actually a percentile...i.e. 9.4, my rating means i am hotter than 94% of men on the site, it doesn't mean my average ratings are between 9 and 10. I have another pic that's an 7.9, go figure.
 

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Giovanni Casanova, can I see ur pic? How often are u approached cuz I can't remember when was the last time it happen to me.
 

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f-ing unbelievable.
You are taking seriously a 1-10 rating of yourself and you're wondering why your "game" stinks. You're having problems because you're acting like a GIRL. Stop going to hotornot.com--that site is totally lame.
Rating yourself (and girls, for that matter) is stupid. You should think of yourself as a "10," and any woman you are interested in is the best woman ever. Don't try to impress us with numbers--who cares what your friends think?
 

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by the way, david 90. You will have no success if you think that sitting around and looking pretty is going to get girls to "approach" you. It really just doesn't happen. Get out there, meet some people, have some fun, and make some magic happen. Anyway, it's more satisfying to get a date with a woman who *you approached for no other reason except that *you were interested in knowing her on *your own terms. Take control of your life, bro.
 

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Hotornot ratings aren't even reliable at all. The ratings are total bullcrap, for a number of reasons. I put up my picture a while ago, but it was only for sh*ts and giggles. It didn't affect my self image or anything.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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JT47319

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Originally posted by smoke city
... looking pretty is going to get girls to "approach" you. It really just doesn't happen.
Girls approach guys, almost as aggressively as men approach women, who are 8.5 and above.

Personally, I like to observe and learn from my Natural friends who are good looking as well as observe how women behave around them, but I wouldn't actually want to learn too much from them. Their game revolves primarily around their looks.

Here's a good looking guy's game...
Girl goes up to him -> they fluff (not even rapport, just fluff) -> extract -> ****

For average to above average looking guys, you just have to have tight game.
 

david90

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thanks all.

I guess since i'm not blessed in the looks department, I would have to go the extra mile to get HBs. It's kewl though.:cool:
 

tom121

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lol i was getting 3.6 :(

i don't trust that site anyway, probably some geeky guys just press 1 on everyone

although I know I am ugly so it really doesn't matter for people to rate me on the interweb :p ;)
 

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i would be shy to say it out
but i've been approached by women always too often but never had an idea of what to do and because of that too often nah all the time i screw up
rating wise i would be 8.5 though just a little clueless at times
 

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At first I put some cr@@py webcam shots I took of myself at 3A.M. on there and got ratings between 7-8 (and dumb, silly me put them on Match.com). Then I got some nice photos of myself with a nice haircut and nice clothes in good lighting, and I got a "9" and a 9.1 respectively. So a good photo helps imensely, although I got more actual "5"'s than anything else. Still not bad for a 35 year old fart like me:D My sister is 23 and got a 9.9 when I put her pic up there(taken when she was 21), the vast majority rating her a ten, so there seems to also be a vast difference between just a "9" and a "9.9" as well.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Don't worry, I'm a 1. One of my friends put my pic on that stupid site and got all her friends to vote me for 1.

Now she's a 1 too! ahahahahaha. god I'm so immature.
 

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you mean it looks lopsided in the pic?

i'm not wearing my t shirt entirely the right side up. you can see my undershirt peeking out.

damn, do you scrutinize or what! :D
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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