"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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every guy that I have spoken to in real life has told me to lie and say "I am looking for a relationship" get in her pants and then after a while say "sorry, we are not compatible"
I have an ethical problem with this. I don't think it's right to mislead a girl like that.
When I told someone I don't think it's right, he said "so it's right for you to pay $100 for the date and uber and get ripped off?" well, he is kind of right but still, I don't think it's cool to lie to her, get in her pants, and then leave.

so I don't know, what's your opinion? how do you answer that?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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every guy that I have spoken to in real life has told me to lie and say "I am looking for a relationship" get in her pants and then after a while say "sorry, we are not compatible"
I have an ethical problem with this. I don't think it's right to mislead a girl like that.
When I told someone I don't think it's right, he said "so it's right for you to pay $100 for the date and uber and get ripped off?" well, he is kind of right but still, I don't think it's cool to lie to her, get in her pants, and then leave.

so I don't know, what's your opinion? how do you answer that?
In my opinion, I always tell the girl I don't want a relationship. we just have casual sex and also some other bonuses like them cooking for me, giving me a back rub etc.

This lays everything out on the table that we aren't exclusive and it favors me if certain situations arise. Me being in NYC you have millions of people and massive amount of bars/lounges/clubs to choose from. Well this has happened to me 4 times while I was out. I would be with a chick i'm fvcking and SOMEHOW run into my other casual sex partner. in some cases I didn't have a choice and I had to introduce them to each other lol. I let them both know I'm not exclusive to no one and to keep it cool. After that, they still wanted to fvck me. IMO be straight up.
 

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In2theGame is right, just date none exclusive. If you end up paying $100 on a date, then that's that. Just enjoy the time. Unless you want sex for the date, then hire an escort. I spent $89 last Friday and nothing happen but I had a good time and even learned some salsa. Just be upfront with what "you" want, not what other men think is wise to do. If they enjoy your company, they sleep with you either way.
 

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Stop paying for dates or stop paying for expensive dates. When I was on Tinder I'd never pay for a first date. Why should I? If it makes it to 3rd or 4th date territory and she's actually interested and worth the investment then consider a moderate date that you pay for. Expensive dates are for well into a relationship.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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See how it goes

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Stop paying for dates or stop paying for expensive dates. When I was on Tinder I'd never pay for a first date. Why should I? If it makes it to 3rd or 4th date territory and she's actually interested and worth the investment then consider a moderate date that you pay for. Expensive dates are for well into a relationship.
you're right, I just don't know how that can be done without looking cheap.
 

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Look at you Mr. Swag
LOL

Hey Amante, were you ever a DJ or club promoter in your lifetime?
I was a House DJ for several years back in the day...hot women threw themselves at me all night long...i miss that haha.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Amante the seasoned mr so suave
 

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I was a House DJ for several years back in the day...hot women threw themselves at me all night long...i miss that haha.
nice what kinda house you play?
 

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nice what kinda house you play?
It was a while back...almost seems like another lifetime.

Tech house, disco house, progressive house and some deep/jazzy house early on in the night...also depending on how many K heads I had there sometimes I'd go really minimal house to send them down the K Hole hahaha
 

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It was a while back...almost seems like another lifetime.

Tech house, disco house, progressive house and some deep/jazzy house early on in the night...also depending on how many K heads I had there sometimes I'd go really minimal house to send them down the K Hole hahaha
This all sounds perfect. I love tech house, deep house, deep tech house, funky house, oldschool new school, minimal tech

The older I get though I've limited myself to a maximum of one rave a month
 

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This all sounds perfect. I love tech house, deep house, deep tech house, funky house, oldschool new school, minimal tech

The older I get though I've limited myself to a maximum of one rave a month
I hear you man...I'm completely out of the scene now but I still love the music, its in my blood. Used to have a few weekends a month where I'd DJ in the club until 2am Friday night and then there would be an after party where I'd DJ until people left...usually around 6 or 7 am...slept til 3 or 4pm on Saturday and then did the same thing all over again Saturday night...it was just a completely different lifestyle to livem. I'm not sure I could do it again.

Sometimes I'd pick up a 3rd or 4th night during the week as well...it was a lot fun...banged a lot of super hot women...but the reality was I always knew they were with me because I was a DJ and not because of who I was. I've always considered myself a "real" person and after a while that started to really bother me. Its hard to explain but it must be awful for really famous or really rich people.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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