"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
If you need something a little easier to thumb through, try checking out the DJ Bible. It is a good stepping stone to many aspects of what people preach here.
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How to get hors? Now that is a different question!
I know what a hor is, but as far as I know, you attract them in pretty much the same way as feminine women.
Chosen1
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Then why are you here? I mean, I came here because I want some tips and stuff to use. There has to be the secret that you guys knwo right? Or just what the hell do you guys do around here? Do you just log in everyday and discuss women or something?
I'm starting to get freaked out.
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No, no. no. no!!!! Do you know that giving flowers and serenadeing a beauty with song was a legetimate tactic, not to long ago? But the hor HAS TAKEN ON MASCULINE TRAITS IN HER BOLDNESS TO DO AS MEN DO - AND THUS THE man must treat the hor with a different mindset and tactics to "win" her over!! This is why the hor likes the jerk - because he has become super-masculine in his "jerkness" and thus he is "more" masculine than the hor!!! It is a complex dynamic which has been introduced in the last forty years!! This is the hor/homo MATRIX - which trys to make the male weak and the female less weak (women cannot be strong!!!!)!!!!!Obsidian said:
maybe a year and a half ago I might've believed that...but not today. Being nice has gotten me no where in life, even now that I'm suaver and more physically fit than I used to be.
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Chosen1
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I'm here to share what I know and think. This site is kind of pointless because there is no secret to getting females. This site just keeps us on point and make sure we follow through with things and remember why we came here (I'll get into this later). When I said women are complicated and simple I mean that we as guys make it really hard to meet someone. The thing to remember is just to have fun and talk that's basically it.HUFFY said:
On to why I came here. As I said in other posts I came here when I got mad that a girl I thought I liked just wanted to have sex and move on. Normally that's not a problem because that's what most guys want. I wanted to say to everybody I'm in a realationship and that I have someone just like they do. I also thought hmm. This is the first girl that will really really like me, as I blew it with others. I learned that I was just as wrong with my thinking as this girl was. I should have just relaxed and not have worried. But I put her on notice that I wanted to be with her and that I won't find another girl.
She said to me and I'll never forget it. "You need some fvcking confidence". After that I realized I was wrong and I need to change I have become a little harder at heart with women but it's for the best. Next time don't pull me into a convo like this because as you can see I just go on and on. Peace and war.
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Most men here are being emotionally devestated by hors because they mistook them as women!!! WRONG!!! Hors are masculine by action and thinking tus you cannot approach them as women -- Say "NO" to loving and being emotional with hos!!!!!Obsidian said:
The pimp mindset is succesful today because they see a thing for what it is and handle it as such!!! Many dudes here are inexperienced and docile and are being emotionally overrunned by hors!!! Do not treat a lion as a kitten - if so be ready to be devoured!!!!!!
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I'm answering the call. No, of course not all women are hoes, but they have hoe like qualities. This should be common knowledge to you that no matter how afcish you are not there are 10 others that are worse then you. I mean pay attention to some guys even guys that get plenty of booty act afcish. Then there are guys who are nice but don't back down like me (anymore) where we might not get as much booty but we sure in the hell know the game women play. Well, that's now a days at least. I know I better have fun now because she's going to have fun why not me. Don't worry about her so much girls can take care of themselves probably better then guys. There so much to remember but I just know to 1. listen 2. take your time and respond accordingly. :cuss:Obsidian said:
But he's also saying that traditional strategies for getting real women don't work anymore because all/most women have become wh0re-ized.
I myself am getting pretty tired of hoes (and prudes, too) and all the psychological mind gamez and nonsense. So I'd honestly like to know if there's some way to recognize a REAL woman. And then once I've found one, is there some nice-guy way I can treat her that will gain favorable results?
Normally when nice guys that I know wind up with hot girls (this happened to one of my friends), I attribute it to luck. (In my friend's case, it pretty much was luck, considering he didn't even have the ballz to ask her out until he found out from a mutual friend that she liked him).
Or is the traditional nice guy way just a thing of the past? Should I just keep up the aloofness&C&F with every girl I see and stay on the lookout for non-hors?
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
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No the traditional way of getting women is not gone. I'm seeing people my age or younger getting married and staying married (no offsense they're usually white). Then I see girls having babies and just trying to find a baby daddy or whatever. The world is way to complex to say it's one way or the other. Most men get lucky but this is something you can't polarize one way or another just find the stratergy that works best for you and stick with it. For me it's the non traditional way.Last Man Standing
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The "nice guy" is considered less than masculine - it does not work today in the age of hors - because they - the hors - have gone outside of their feminine nature!!!
If you approach a virgin, in mind, body and spirit, then you approach and treat them differently!!!! You must approach her as a women and not as a hor - thus your masculinity must over-ride your sexuality!! You approach a hor in a sexual manner - as Djf or John, outlined numerous times!!! Hiors respond to sexuality moreso than masculinity!!!
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The secret s that you can't sum up women, get use to it.HUFFY said:
So according to Chosen1, all you guys do is come here and talk about what the **** you think and know?
What in the blue ****? I thought this site was where guys came and they knew how to pull women.
From the responses, all of you guys are basically saying you don't know ****. Well then...if you don't know ****, then how the hell Chosen1 can you guys come and talk about what you THINK AND KNOW if you don't know anything?
Can someone please direct me to a site where I can learn more about picking up women please?
I forgot the name of what you guys would be called, I think it's Keyboard Players or something? But I don't have time for that **** I have a life.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.