"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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anorexic women: stay away, right?

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hi guys, first time posting here and just very, very depressed with major oneitis at the moment.

i love this community, and i always come here to read what people are talking about, but today i feel a severe need to ask for a nudge in what i already know is the right direction

i've been super infatuated with this girl who is an anorexic cutter, despite the fact that i have many other options, and she has been giving me the runaround for a while. textbook hot/cold push/pull ****. a couple days on, a week off, all that. i just need a reminder that getting seriously involved with someone who exhibits that behavior is a bad idea. i am so low today and it would really help, especially if anyone has personal experiences with this

thanks guys
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Uhh.. you need a reminder?

Cutter? Esteem issues, depression, dramatic, bat**** crazy. You get drawn in, and you may get threats like "I can't handle it if you do this..." with implications of suicide. Will talk about how she hates herself, sometimes wishes she was never born, and will draw you into supporting her by victimizing herself, and then push you away and make you feel like ****.

Anorexic? More esteem issues, doesn't know how to take care of herself, self-obsessed, etc etc.

In other words, you seriously -need- a reminder to avoid a potential psychopath, a completely crazy woman?
 

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thanks pluto. yeah, it's pathetic, but i actually do crave hearing these things right now to help me snap the **** out of it. that's an issue with my own self-esteem, but i'm still fighting my inner AFC and fell really hard for this one. i don't even know why i like her so much.
 

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what the fvck am I reading?

she`s basically fvcked up beyond repair and thrash of society and you want to save her with your eternal love?

you aren`t member of this community, you don`t belong into this community, you belong into a nuthouse
 

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sounds like you have the savior complex, get all that sh it out of your head, you cant help her and this girl is going to give you nothing but problems
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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thanks man. i know there's something to that savior complex idea going on here, for sure. what a mindf*ck...
 

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I once fell for a cutter.

She wasn't a cutter at the time she was a cutter before we met, I only found out afterwards.

When I first met her she was in normal mode and was a very friendly person and seemed to be quite into me, we had fantastic chemistry. But when she started to slip back into her darker mode (and I found about about the cutting, anorexia etc.) it all got quite dark and she messed my mind up pretty bad at the time. I won't go into detail or I would be here all day.


Stay away from them, they are poison.
 

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Also interesting to note the top current thread is about anorexic women and the 2nd top current thread is about obese women.
 

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Eternal_water said:
I once fell for a cutter.

She wasn't a cutter at the time she was a cutter before we met, I only found out afterwards.

When I first met her she was in normal mode and was a very friendly person and seemed to be quite into me, we had fantastic chemistry. But when she started to slip back into her darker mode (and I found about about the cutting, anorexia etc.) it all got quite dark and she messed my mind up pretty bad at the time. I won't go into detail or I would be here all day.

Stay away from them, they are poison.
amazing how much it can mess with your mind, isn't it? i hardly ever get shook when someone runs hot/cold but this one has brought me to my knees.

that's why i posted here... i can get really lost in my head with this one and she's doing an expert job of come-here-go-away. i really want to beat it.
 

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Eternal_water said:
Also interesting to note the top current thread is about anorexic women and the 2nd top current thread is about obese women.
that is interesting!
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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zenaddict said:
you are not one of us, stop posting
Leave him alone, man. This should be a place of support. Give him a harsh dose of reality, but don't hamper him in trying to learn.

At that, man, run, not walk, away from this. You know deep down that this is bad for you. Get away BEFORE it gets worse. Simple. Just stop. Stop contacting her, she tries to hang out, tell her you are busy. Draw yourself away. Let her deal with her problems, you deal with yours.

My ex.. good god, she had so many issues, I can quote her in a lot of stuff, but anyways.. she was a cutter at one point in her life. She tilted near suicide at a couple points, she was depressive at times, she was manipulative, all these girls are just ****ed up in the head. You have to avoid them. There's no 'want', or 'should', you HAVE to avoid them if you want to remain stable, sane, and happy.

Run, not walk. Get out of it. Go hit on other chicks. Doesn't matter how much you think about her, just get away. Don't fall victim to our instincts to protect and save her.. all it will do is draw you into the pit.
 

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Plutoman said:
Leave him alone, man. This should be a place of support. Give him a harsh dose of reality, but don't hamper him in trying to learn.

At that, man, run, not walk, away from this. You know deep down that this is bad for you. Get away BEFORE it gets worse. Simple. Just stop. Stop contacting her, she tries to hang out, tell her you are busy. Draw yourself away. Let her deal with her problems, you deal with yours.

My ex.. good god, she had so many issues, I can quote her in a lot of stuff, but anyways.. she was a cutter at one point in her life. She tilted near suicide at a couple points, she was depressive at times, she was manipulative, all these girls are just ****ed up in the head. You have to avoid them. There's no 'want', or 'should', you HAVE to avoid them if you want to remain stable, sane, and happy.

Run, not walk. Get out of it. Go hit on other chicks. Doesn't matter how much you think about her, just get away. Don't fall victim to our instincts to protect and save her.. all it will do is draw you into the pit.
thanks again pluto. i'd like to get out of it without causing a scene and being dramatic about the whole thing so that's what i'm working on now. would love to make a smooth exit that i can feel proud of...
 

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Noire said:
i don't even know why i like her so much.
You probably saw the unusual sight (these days) of a thin woman and was mesmerized.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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zekko said:
You probably saw the unusual sight (these days) of a thin woman and was mesmerized.
i don't know man, i don't even usually go for chicks that are that skinny. she just got to me!
 

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Noire said:
i've been super infatuated with this girl who is an anorexic cutter
I would direct her to medical and psychological help if possible.
 

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yeaa I went with a girl for a while who had body image issues (mostly anorexia) and while she was alright (and fun in the sack), she was kinda crazy and dramatic. I'd never date one seriously or get involved but i'd sleep with em for a short while...
 

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I was on a date once. She was pretty cool and I was considering another date when she moved to stretch in her chair and I saw razor blade scars on both wrists.

Never called her again.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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