"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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anorexic women: stay away, right?

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hi guys, first time posting here and just very, very depressed with major oneitis at the moment.

i love this community, and i always come here to read what people are talking about, but today i feel a severe need to ask for a nudge in what i already know is the right direction

i've been super infatuated with this girl who is an anorexic cutter, despite the fact that i have many other options, and she has been giving me the runaround for a while. textbook hot/cold push/pull ****. a couple days on, a week off, all that. i just need a reminder that getting seriously involved with someone who exhibits that behavior is a bad idea. i am so low today and it would really help, especially if anyone has personal experiences with this

thanks guys
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Uhh.. you need a reminder?

Cutter? Esteem issues, depression, dramatic, bat**** crazy. You get drawn in, and you may get threats like "I can't handle it if you do this..." with implications of suicide. Will talk about how she hates herself, sometimes wishes she was never born, and will draw you into supporting her by victimizing herself, and then push you away and make you feel like ****.

Anorexic? More esteem issues, doesn't know how to take care of herself, self-obsessed, etc etc.

In other words, you seriously -need- a reminder to avoid a potential psychopath, a completely crazy woman?
 

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thanks pluto. yeah, it's pathetic, but i actually do crave hearing these things right now to help me snap the **** out of it. that's an issue with my own self-esteem, but i'm still fighting my inner AFC and fell really hard for this one. i don't even know why i like her so much.
 

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what the fvck am I reading?

she`s basically fvcked up beyond repair and thrash of society and you want to save her with your eternal love?

you aren`t member of this community, you don`t belong into this community, you belong into a nuthouse
 

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sounds like you have the savior complex, get all that sh it out of your head, you cant help her and this girl is going to give you nothing but problems
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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thanks man. i know there's something to that savior complex idea going on here, for sure. what a mindf*ck...
 

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I once fell for a cutter.

She wasn't a cutter at the time she was a cutter before we met, I only found out afterwards.

When I first met her she was in normal mode and was a very friendly person and seemed to be quite into me, we had fantastic chemistry. But when she started to slip back into her darker mode (and I found about about the cutting, anorexia etc.) it all got quite dark and she messed my mind up pretty bad at the time. I won't go into detail or I would be here all day.


Stay away from them, they are poison.
 

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Also interesting to note the top current thread is about anorexic women and the 2nd top current thread is about obese women.
 

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Eternal_water said:
I once fell for a cutter.

She wasn't a cutter at the time she was a cutter before we met, I only found out afterwards.

When I first met her she was in normal mode and was a very friendly person and seemed to be quite into me, we had fantastic chemistry. But when she started to slip back into her darker mode (and I found about about the cutting, anorexia etc.) it all got quite dark and she messed my mind up pretty bad at the time. I won't go into detail or I would be here all day.

Stay away from them, they are poison.
amazing how much it can mess with your mind, isn't it? i hardly ever get shook when someone runs hot/cold but this one has brought me to my knees.

that's why i posted here... i can get really lost in my head with this one and she's doing an expert job of come-here-go-away. i really want to beat it.
 

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Eternal_water said:
Also interesting to note the top current thread is about anorexic women and the 2nd top current thread is about obese women.
that is interesting!
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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you are not one of us, stop posting
Leave him alone, man. This should be a place of support. Give him a harsh dose of reality, but don't hamper him in trying to learn.

At that, man, run, not walk, away from this. You know deep down that this is bad for you. Get away BEFORE it gets worse. Simple. Just stop. Stop contacting her, she tries to hang out, tell her you are busy. Draw yourself away. Let her deal with her problems, you deal with yours.

My ex.. good god, she had so many issues, I can quote her in a lot of stuff, but anyways.. she was a cutter at one point in her life. She tilted near suicide at a couple points, she was depressive at times, she was manipulative, all these girls are just ****ed up in the head. You have to avoid them. There's no 'want', or 'should', you HAVE to avoid them if you want to remain stable, sane, and happy.

Run, not walk. Get out of it. Go hit on other chicks. Doesn't matter how much you think about her, just get away. Don't fall victim to our instincts to protect and save her.. all it will do is draw you into the pit.
 

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Plutoman said:
Leave him alone, man. This should be a place of support. Give him a harsh dose of reality, but don't hamper him in trying to learn.

At that, man, run, not walk, away from this. You know deep down that this is bad for you. Get away BEFORE it gets worse. Simple. Just stop. Stop contacting her, she tries to hang out, tell her you are busy. Draw yourself away. Let her deal with her problems, you deal with yours.

My ex.. good god, she had so many issues, I can quote her in a lot of stuff, but anyways.. she was a cutter at one point in her life. She tilted near suicide at a couple points, she was depressive at times, she was manipulative, all these girls are just ****ed up in the head. You have to avoid them. There's no 'want', or 'should', you HAVE to avoid them if you want to remain stable, sane, and happy.

Run, not walk. Get out of it. Go hit on other chicks. Doesn't matter how much you think about her, just get away. Don't fall victim to our instincts to protect and save her.. all it will do is draw you into the pit.
thanks again pluto. i'd like to get out of it without causing a scene and being dramatic about the whole thing so that's what i'm working on now. would love to make a smooth exit that i can feel proud of...
 

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Noire said:
i don't even know why i like her so much.
You probably saw the unusual sight (these days) of a thin woman and was mesmerized.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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zekko said:
You probably saw the unusual sight (these days) of a thin woman and was mesmerized.
i don't know man, i don't even usually go for chicks that are that skinny. she just got to me!
 

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Noire said:
i've been super infatuated with this girl who is an anorexic cutter
I would direct her to medical and psychological help if possible.
 

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yeaa I went with a girl for a while who had body image issues (mostly anorexia) and while she was alright (and fun in the sack), she was kinda crazy and dramatic. I'd never date one seriously or get involved but i'd sleep with em for a short while...
 

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I was on a date once. She was pretty cool and I was considering another date when she moved to stretch in her chair and I saw razor blade scars on both wrists.

Never called her again.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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