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She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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An unusual counteroffer

OnTheWayUp

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Hi people,

Just asked out my 4th girl in 5 days! Crazy! If you had told me I would be approaching so many girls this time last year, I would have laughed in your face.

Anyway, I asked this particular girl to a gig in 10 days time, seeing as we're into the same music. She seemed really happy to be asked out in the message she sent back, using lots of smileys, mentioning in jokes without me prompting her etc etc. However, she said that she wasn't free that night, having already been invited to a different gig by a female friend of hers. She asked me if I want to go with them.


My thoughts:

-Objectively, I love the music that the band at the gig she invited me to play more than at the gig I invited her to. She knows this.

- I am wary of being friend-zoned if I hang out with her and a female friend excessively.

-This feels like some sort of audition, so that she can show her friend what I'm like. I get the feeling she's not completely comfortable hanging out alone. I also get the feeling she's pretty inexperienced (she's 18) with guys.


What should I do?
 

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Chickfight

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Yeah, whether conciously or unconciously, the friend will always ****block.
If you REALLY want to go. I suggest bringing a buddy or even two that you think would get along with her friend. That way you can actually isolate her. But her and a friend + you is a NONO.

but yeah I agree with the above, reschedule, the chick seems into you so she should be fine with it.
 

BBbardot

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OnTheWayUp said:
Hi people,

Just asked out my 4th girl in 5 days! Crazy! If you had told me I would be approaching so many girls this time last year, I would have laughed in your face.

Anyway, I asked this particular girl to a gig in 10 days time, seeing as we're into the same music. She seemed really happy to be asked out in the message she sent back, using lots of smileys, mentioning in jokes without me prompting her etc etc. However, she said that she wasn't free that night, having already been invited to a different gig by a female friend of hers. She asked me if I want to go with them.


My thoughts:

-Objectively, I love the music that the band at the gig she invited me to play more than at the gig I invited her to. She knows this.

- I am wary of being friend-zoned if I hang out with her and a female friend excessively.

-This feels like some sort of audition, so that she can show her friend what I'm like. I get the feeling she's not completely comfortable hanging out alone. I also get the feeling she's pretty inexperienced (she's 18) with guys.


What should I do?

Whats wrong with friend zone, it's actually a very confortable zone. I mean if a girl friend zone you for real it's that she is not that attracted to you anyway. You don't lose anything.
And in a friend zone you're verrrrry close, close enough then to go for the kill:) and plus it will be pure sex, cause she would like you, but not be intimidated like a girl might be sometimes with a guy that she is actually interested in. So it would be pretty pretty cool.
And she will find it fun to do everything you want cause she would have never thought of you like it before, yet know you well...
Plus in the friend zone you get to date other girl with her knowing, hell you can even get her to hook you up with other girls.

Friend zone is finne:)

I think friend zone is the better way to get to a threesome too. Cause in a romantic relationship she would be jealous and it would caue drama.
3some in a friendzone is the best threesome you would get too, cause no drama, just fun.
 

OnTheWayUp

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Chickfight said:
If you REALLY want to go. I suggest bringing a buddy or even two that you think would get along with her friend. That way you can actually isolate her.
Thanks to everyone for their advice.

However, I think Chickfight has this one down. I do really want to go to this gig- had I known about it in advance, I would have arranged to take the girl to this, the better gig, instead of the more average one we planned. I have a friend who I spoke with today who is single, a bit of a player, and is into the same music that we are, so I'll ask him (and the girl ofc) if he wants to make it a double date.

Wish me luck!
 

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She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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BBbardot said:
Whats wrong with friend zone, it's actually a very confortable zone. I mean if a girl friend zone you for real it's that she is not that attracted to you anyway. You don't lose anything.
And in a friend zone you're verrrrry close, close enough then to go for the kill:) and plus it will be pure sex, cause she would like you, but not be intimidated like a girl might be sometimes with a guy that she is actually interested in. So it would be pretty pretty cool.
And she will find it fun to do everything you want cause she would have never thought of you like it before, yet know you well...
Plus in the friend zone you get to date other girl with her knowing, hell you can even get her to hook you up with other girls.

Friend zone is finne:)

I think friend zone is the better way to get to a threesome too. Cause in a romantic relationship she would be jealous and it would caue drama.
3some in a friendzone is the best threesome you would get too, cause no drama, just fun.
Dude. STFU.
 

DonJuan11

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OnTheWayUp said:
Hi people,

Just asked out my 4th girl in 5 days! Crazy! If you had told me I would be approaching so many girls this time last year, I would have laughed in your face.

Anyway, I asked this particular girl to a gig in 10 days time,

10 days time? That's pretty far away. She could be pregnant with someone's baby by then. If you like a girl and want to go out with her, you have to lock it down fast.

seeing as we're into the same music. She seemed really happy to be asked out in the message she sent back, using lots of smileys, mentioning in jokes without me prompting her etc etc.

You asked her out in a text message? That doesn't help the situation.


However, she said that she wasn't free that night, having already been invited to a different gig by a female friend of hers. She asked me if I want to go with them.

Very close to the friend zone. She doesn't like or respect you enough to counter with one-on-one date you and she asks you to "tag along" with her friend for a first date. You are no different than her cousin.

Think about it: If you liked a girls "personality" and "taste in music" but didn't want to sleep with her, wouldn't you invite her to "tag along" with you and a buddy?



My thoughts:

-Objectively, I love the music that the band at the gig she invited me to play more than at the gig I invited her to. She knows this.

- I am wary of being friend-zoned if I hang out with her and a female friend excessively.

-This feels like some sort of audition, so that she can show her friend what I'm like. I get the feeling she's not completely comfortable hanging out alone. I also get the feeling she's pretty inexperienced (she's 18) with guys.

What should I do?
Respectfully decline, ask her out for a different day by TALKING to her.
 
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