"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Amy Winehouse Found Dead
- Thread starter TIC
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Upside
Senior Don Juan
My "This totally came out of no where!!!" face will queue in 3...2...1...
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
wait_out
Master Don Juan
Classy.
Personally I think it's a shame, she was an immensely talented and compelling artist. Did you know she wrote, sung, and performed her own music? How many female "artists" are still doing that these days? Yes she had problems but it's because she was the real deal. I doubt anyone on this forum could ever follow in her footsteps, musically.
She will be remembered in the end for her music, and everybody who got a kick out of talking sh*t will eventually fade away. RIP
Tears Dry On Their Own
Rehab
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You Know That I'm No Good
Personally I think it's a shame, she was an immensely talented and compelling artist. Did you know she wrote, sung, and performed her own music? How many female "artists" are still doing that these days? Yes she had problems but it's because she was the real deal. I doubt anyone on this forum could ever follow in her footsteps, musically.
She will be remembered in the end for her music, and everybody who got a kick out of talking sh*t will eventually fade away. RIP
Tears Dry On Their Own
Rehab
Back to Black
You Know That I'm No Good
Now here's a really stupid comment. If you don't care then don't post in my thread. Especially if you're gonna be a pr1ck about itVice said:
You don't care. Why are you here complaining then? There's thousands of other threads yet you choose this one to whine in
Vice
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Lets just say I wasn't exactly in the best of moods last night. Combine that with my pet peeve of how much attention celebrities get (me projecting my own need for attention onto others) and you get a nasty, emotional outburst. I should have just left it alone. I am sorry.TIC said:
[tangent]Nonetheless, I didn't know who Amy Winehouse was until this thread. Same thing happened when Heath Ledger died. I've had women ask if I've been living under a rock; I tell them I'm too busy living and enjoying my own life to bother keeping up with celebrities.
I've noticed that many women's daily life consists of working, then going home while watching TV (and thus filling their minds with useless celebrity facts, advertising, and other social conditioning) with their roommate/female friend while cruising facebook on their smartphones talking about men. Women are so boring.[/tangent]
Atom Smasher
Master Don Juan
Respek for that apology, Vice. 
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Atom Smasher
Master Don Juan
Just an AS musing...
When I was younger I used to look down on people like that for not getting their act together. But as I matured, I started seeing my own (much less severe) character flaws and how hard it was for me to even start to get a handle on them. And I'm still working on my many flaws. They are amazingly resistent to change.
Therefore I wonder if she was ever even capable of climbing out of that morass she was in. I'm all for personal responsibility, but for someone so deep in the pit of self-loathing, I wonder if there ever was a time when it was possible for her to climb out of it.
Of couse, we can't possibly know her life circumstances fully, but as a general principal, what do you guys think? Is it inevitable for her and others like her to keep descending until death, or is there a way out?
When I was younger I used to look down on people like that for not getting their act together. But as I matured, I started seeing my own (much less severe) character flaws and how hard it was for me to even start to get a handle on them. And I'm still working on my many flaws. They are amazingly resistent to change.
Therefore I wonder if she was ever even capable of climbing out of that morass she was in. I'm all for personal responsibility, but for someone so deep in the pit of self-loathing, I wonder if there ever was a time when it was possible for her to climb out of it.
Of couse, we can't possibly know her life circumstances fully, but as a general principal, what do you guys think? Is it inevitable for her and others like her to keep descending until death, or is there a way out?
Drdeee
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Tell you what I think.
I think this is similar to Michael Jackson death. Jackson death was used - it failed though - to slip through health care agenda.
Winehouse death is being used to slip in the white Al Qaeda agenda.
Both stories are like those blankets they use to put over a corpse to hide it from the public if you know what I mean.
I think this is similar to Michael Jackson death. Jackson death was used - it failed though - to slip through health care agenda.
Winehouse death is being used to slip in the white Al Qaeda agenda.
Both stories are like those blankets they use to put over a corpse to hide it from the public if you know what I mean.
spider_007
Master Don Juan
Ninja Dude
Senior Don Juan
Sad news for sure. She built her stardom on that whole junkie vibe and the world egged her on. Nobody should be surprised. Shoulda went to rehab Amy - RIP
Why go through any of that trouble? They dont need to distract people who dont care what they are doing. You really think too highly of your oppressors. They are not as powerful as you like to believe.Drdeee said:
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.