"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Amy Winehouse Found Dead
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Upside
Senior Don Juan
My "This totally came out of no where!!!" face will queue in 3...2...1...
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
wait_out
Master Don Juan
Classy.
Personally I think it's a shame, she was an immensely talented and compelling artist. Did you know she wrote, sung, and performed her own music? How many female "artists" are still doing that these days? Yes she had problems but it's because she was the real deal. I doubt anyone on this forum could ever follow in her footsteps, musically.
She will be remembered in the end for her music, and everybody who got a kick out of talking sh*t will eventually fade away. RIP
Tears Dry On Their Own
Rehab
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You Know That I'm No Good
Personally I think it's a shame, she was an immensely talented and compelling artist. Did you know she wrote, sung, and performed her own music? How many female "artists" are still doing that these days? Yes she had problems but it's because she was the real deal. I doubt anyone on this forum could ever follow in her footsteps, musically.
She will be remembered in the end for her music, and everybody who got a kick out of talking sh*t will eventually fade away. RIP
Tears Dry On Their Own
Rehab
Back to Black
You Know That I'm No Good
Now here's a really stupid comment. If you don't care then don't post in my thread. Especially if you're gonna be a pr1ck about itVice said:
You don't care. Why are you here complaining then? There's thousands of other threads yet you choose this one to whine in
Vice
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Lets just say I wasn't exactly in the best of moods last night. Combine that with my pet peeve of how much attention celebrities get (me projecting my own need for attention onto others) and you get a nasty, emotional outburst. I should have just left it alone. I am sorry.TIC said:
[tangent]Nonetheless, I didn't know who Amy Winehouse was until this thread. Same thing happened when Heath Ledger died. I've had women ask if I've been living under a rock; I tell them I'm too busy living and enjoying my own life to bother keeping up with celebrities.
I've noticed that many women's daily life consists of working, then going home while watching TV (and thus filling their minds with useless celebrity facts, advertising, and other social conditioning) with their roommate/female friend while cruising facebook on their smartphones talking about men. Women are so boring.[/tangent]
Atom Smasher
Master Don Juan
Respek for that apology, Vice. 
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Atom Smasher
Master Don Juan
Just an AS musing...
When I was younger I used to look down on people like that for not getting their act together. But as I matured, I started seeing my own (much less severe) character flaws and how hard it was for me to even start to get a handle on them. And I'm still working on my many flaws. They are amazingly resistent to change.
Therefore I wonder if she was ever even capable of climbing out of that morass she was in. I'm all for personal responsibility, but for someone so deep in the pit of self-loathing, I wonder if there ever was a time when it was possible for her to climb out of it.
Of couse, we can't possibly know her life circumstances fully, but as a general principal, what do you guys think? Is it inevitable for her and others like her to keep descending until death, or is there a way out?
When I was younger I used to look down on people like that for not getting their act together. But as I matured, I started seeing my own (much less severe) character flaws and how hard it was for me to even start to get a handle on them. And I'm still working on my many flaws. They are amazingly resistent to change.
Therefore I wonder if she was ever even capable of climbing out of that morass she was in. I'm all for personal responsibility, but for someone so deep in the pit of self-loathing, I wonder if there ever was a time when it was possible for her to climb out of it.
Of couse, we can't possibly know her life circumstances fully, but as a general principal, what do you guys think? Is it inevitable for her and others like her to keep descending until death, or is there a way out?
Drdeee
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Tell you what I think.
I think this is similar to Michael Jackson death. Jackson death was used - it failed though - to slip through health care agenda.
Winehouse death is being used to slip in the white Al Qaeda agenda.
Both stories are like those blankets they use to put over a corpse to hide it from the public if you know what I mean.
I think this is similar to Michael Jackson death. Jackson death was used - it failed though - to slip through health care agenda.
Winehouse death is being used to slip in the white Al Qaeda agenda.
Both stories are like those blankets they use to put over a corpse to hide it from the public if you know what I mean.
spider_007
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Ninja Dude
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Sad news for sure. She built her stardom on that whole junkie vibe and the world egged her on. Nobody should be surprised. Shoulda went to rehab Amy - RIP
Why go through any of that trouble? They dont need to distract people who dont care what they are doing. You really think too highly of your oppressors. They are not as powerful as you like to believe.Drdeee said:
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.