"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Amy Winehouse Found Dead
- Thread starter TIC
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Upside
Senior Don Juan
My "This totally came out of no where!!!" face will queue in 3...2...1...
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
wait_out
Master Don Juan
Classy.
Personally I think it's a shame, she was an immensely talented and compelling artist. Did you know she wrote, sung, and performed her own music? How many female "artists" are still doing that these days? Yes she had problems but it's because she was the real deal. I doubt anyone on this forum could ever follow in her footsteps, musically.
She will be remembered in the end for her music, and everybody who got a kick out of talking sh*t will eventually fade away. RIP
Tears Dry On Their Own
Rehab
Back to Black
You Know That I'm No Good
Personally I think it's a shame, she was an immensely talented and compelling artist. Did you know she wrote, sung, and performed her own music? How many female "artists" are still doing that these days? Yes she had problems but it's because she was the real deal. I doubt anyone on this forum could ever follow in her footsteps, musically.
She will be remembered in the end for her music, and everybody who got a kick out of talking sh*t will eventually fade away. RIP
Tears Dry On Their Own
Rehab
Back to Black
You Know That I'm No Good
Now here's a really stupid comment. If you don't care then don't post in my thread. Especially if you're gonna be a pr1ck about itVice said:
You don't care. Why are you here complaining then? There's thousands of other threads yet you choose this one to whine in
Vice
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Lets just say I wasn't exactly in the best of moods last night. Combine that with my pet peeve of how much attention celebrities get (me projecting my own need for attention onto others) and you get a nasty, emotional outburst. I should have just left it alone. I am sorry.TIC said:
[tangent]Nonetheless, I didn't know who Amy Winehouse was until this thread. Same thing happened when Heath Ledger died. I've had women ask if I've been living under a rock; I tell them I'm too busy living and enjoying my own life to bother keeping up with celebrities.
I've noticed that many women's daily life consists of working, then going home while watching TV (and thus filling their minds with useless celebrity facts, advertising, and other social conditioning) with their roommate/female friend while cruising facebook on their smartphones talking about men. Women are so boring.[/tangent]
Atom Smasher
Master Don Juan
Respek for that apology, Vice. 
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Atom Smasher
Master Don Juan
Just an AS musing...
When I was younger I used to look down on people like that for not getting their act together. But as I matured, I started seeing my own (much less severe) character flaws and how hard it was for me to even start to get a handle on them. And I'm still working on my many flaws. They are amazingly resistent to change.
Therefore I wonder if she was ever even capable of climbing out of that morass she was in. I'm all for personal responsibility, but for someone so deep in the pit of self-loathing, I wonder if there ever was a time when it was possible for her to climb out of it.
Of couse, we can't possibly know her life circumstances fully, but as a general principal, what do you guys think? Is it inevitable for her and others like her to keep descending until death, or is there a way out?
When I was younger I used to look down on people like that for not getting their act together. But as I matured, I started seeing my own (much less severe) character flaws and how hard it was for me to even start to get a handle on them. And I'm still working on my many flaws. They are amazingly resistent to change.
Therefore I wonder if she was ever even capable of climbing out of that morass she was in. I'm all for personal responsibility, but for someone so deep in the pit of self-loathing, I wonder if there ever was a time when it was possible for her to climb out of it.
Of couse, we can't possibly know her life circumstances fully, but as a general principal, what do you guys think? Is it inevitable for her and others like her to keep descending until death, or is there a way out?
Drdeee
Banned
Tell you what I think.
I think this is similar to Michael Jackson death. Jackson death was used - it failed though - to slip through health care agenda.
Winehouse death is being used to slip in the white Al Qaeda agenda.
Both stories are like those blankets they use to put over a corpse to hide it from the public if you know what I mean.
I think this is similar to Michael Jackson death. Jackson death was used - it failed though - to slip through health care agenda.
Winehouse death is being used to slip in the white Al Qaeda agenda.
Both stories are like those blankets they use to put over a corpse to hide it from the public if you know what I mean.
spider_007
Master Don Juan
Ninja Dude
Senior Don Juan
Sad news for sure. She built her stardom on that whole junkie vibe and the world egged her on. Nobody should be surprised. Shoulda went to rehab Amy - RIP
Why go through any of that trouble? They dont need to distract people who dont care what they are doing. You really think too highly of your oppressors. They are not as powerful as you like to believe.Drdeee said:
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.