"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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So, Im banging this 20 year old uni student (im 29), since a month ago, once a week.

Im always able to bang her, but we dont text between dates. The only time we do, is when I invite her to the date (and then she textes a lot).

What makes this weird is that if I dont initiate, she doesn t. But she always wants to **** me and even hangs out with me and her girlfriends (i assume she at least likes my **** :))

Obviously both of us know that this is a fwb relationship.

Some insights on this?

Cheers
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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marmel75

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I don't understand what the problem is. This is exactly how a Fvck Buddy relationship works. No contact other than when you contact her to fvck.

You say its strictly a FWB relationship, but then wonder why she isn't acting like a woman who is your girlfriend or trying to be your girlfriend. Is there something I'm missing here?

She has a perfect handle on the what the relationship is, you don't.
 

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Sounds like a good relationship to me....F uck and no hassle.....Keep it up as long as possible.
 

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I don't understand what the problem is. This is exactly how a Fvck Buddy relationship works. No contact other than when you contact her to fvck.

You say its strictly a FWB relationship, but then wonder why she isn't acting like a woman who is your girlfriend or trying to be your girlfriend. Is there something I'm missing here?

She has a perfect handle on the what the relationship is, you don't.
I was thinking the same thing lol
 

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OP, if I always had to initiate and then wasn't getting poon then I would be concerned and eventually I would stop initiating.. But sense you are getting poon I have to agree with the other guys, I don't think there is a problem here. Keep it status quo for as long as possible.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Agree, but I think the OP is wondering why she's not initiating... after all she does like the sex or intimacy or attention or whatever. Why would she wait if she found him hot?
All FBs I had did initiate at least sporadically.
 

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^ true....
I'd be curious at least 1% because if she's really busy like that....maybe she's on the carousel and call me crazy but I love to be inside them physically and emotionally spiritually in their souls
 

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You're developing LTR feelings, not a good place to be with a FB who isnt.

Ignore it and spin multiple plates. As long as she's game enjoy it.
 

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This is the exact same relationship I have with my girl. I spent all night last night banging her and probably won't talk to her for a week. That's how women are. She won't say "hey wanna come over and bang my brains out". You've got a sweet deal my friend, keep enjoying the ride.
 

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My primary plate is the same way--definitely a bit of an adjustment at first (especially given that 3 or 4 years ago I flat out refused to initiate and let girls come to me). But I think something like this is actually a healthier set up.

On her end it filters out needy men who need constant reassurance (at least, that's one thing my plate complained about the first time we met). It indicates self control and self-assurance (this girl isn't going to text you so often that she ends up losing attraction or press you about why you didn't text her back). On your end, you're passing her **** test just by doing nothing but texting her when you feel like texting her. At the end of day, compliance is the only thing that matters. Everything else is just show. If she'll jump when you say jump, why does it matter if she doesn't overtly communicate how much she wants to jump for you?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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She's busy suckin the other sausages textin her
 
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