"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Alright help me out..

GearsGod310

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Been banging my friend. We literally started off as just friends. We been talking almost everyday since April. When we started hanging out I never even saw her as a girl I would fvck to be honest. We both told eachother that we were just friends and nothing more. But being drunk around eachother got us to smash the first time lol.
Not to toot my own horn but I'm kinda outta her league. Don't get me wrong she's very pretty just not my type.. too skinny ... But last Saturday was the third time we banged. I banged her 3 times and made her *** 4 times. She gave me some crazy dome. And she said "you're the second guy to ever make me *** and the most that made me *** I want this at least once a week for a year or two" and all I said was "fsho".
But I feel like that friendly vibe we had at first is kinda fading away. And I don't want that. We vibe really well and have a good time when we're together. I'm banging other girls so dropping sex with my friend aint a thing to me. I'm not gonna lie I care about this girl I don't even care if we bang or not I just wanna keep having chill vibes with her cause we connect really well. How tf do I proceed?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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It's already the beginning of the end. Even if you manage to keep your friendship platonic, she's still going to push for casual sex every time you hang out. I was in a similar situation, where I valued a girl's friendship and then once we had sex, everything changed. We still had a good friendship, but she always made me feel "obligated" to have sex with her, and I would do it even though I didn't really want to. Nothing worked either. I even got a GF, and she wanted to be the "side chick". She did not care at all.

There's something about having good d!ck game that makes it literally impossible to get rid of women sometimes.

You can try being direct with her, saying you don't want to have sex with her anymore and you value your friendship.. but it's just gonna make her like you even more. A very sh!tty situation indeed.. the beginning of the end.
 

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It's already the beginning of the end. Even if you manage to keep your friendship platonic, she's still going to push for casual sex every time you hang out. I was in a similar situation, where I valued a girl's friendship and then once we had sex, everything changed. We still had a good friendship, but she always made me feel "obligated" to have sex with her, and I would do it even though I didn't really want to. Nothing worked either. I even got a GF, and she wanted to be the "side chick". She did not care at all.

There's something about having good d!ck game that makes it literally impossible to get rid of women sometimes.

You can try being direct with her, saying you don't want to have sex with her anymore and you value your friendship.. but it's just gonna make her like you even more. A very sh!tty situation indeed.. the beginning of the end.
Fvvvvckkk....
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I’ve always heard and read it never works out. This is proof. She’s trying to get you hooked. ‘You’re the first....’ ‘the only...’

If you’re out of her league does that mean you’re lowering your standards for her?
 

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Being friends with women wouldn’t have such a stigma around it if sex was part of the “friendship”. When a woman mentions “being friends” around me that means “you’re never getting sex”
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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You sound like a woman. Not gonna lie.
I've read tons of stories identical to this online, but it's always from the female's perspective.
This is the first time I've ever read a story like this directly from a guy.

I never thought I would say this on SoSuave, but I think you might be the only guy on the Internet that enjoys being in the friend zone.
 
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Dash Riprock

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Don't get me wrong she's very pretty just not my type.. too skinny
You're not attracted to pretty, thin women who are fun and like to f*uck?

Ok......

What's your "type?"

I hope you're not like a friend of mine who has 25 criteria a girl must meet 100% before he considers dating her. BTW, he hasn't had a date in 4 years and he's a decent looking guy with $$, house, multiple cars, solid job, SMH.
 
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