"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Almost there. Any ideas?

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thaik2007

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Alright, my confidence is up and I feel good about myself most of the time, but I am so desperate. The desperation is not going to go away until I atleast get a taste of what I want.

There are these two good looking girls who are into me, and I'm into them, but I'm balking at actually asking them out. They are almost always walking with their friends.

I have no problem saying "Hi" when they are alone, but I get nervous when they around their friends. I know they talk about me (in a positive way, I've heard it).

The one I like the most is infatuated with me and I've only taken her order at work. I looked at her in lunch line once and her hand started shaking, she dropped her bread. I don't see her now that I quit.

But I'm scared of success, I think.

Any ideas on how I can make asking one or both of these chicks out? Should I stalk them so I know when they are alone to ask? :) What can I do. I've reached a plateau. I'm so close, but scared, and my frustration is skyrocketing.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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DJ_Dork

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you say you are confident - then when I read further you're not.
 

Walk this Way

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Girls love strength in numbers. But you have to make friends with each of her friends, and then go in for the kill. It's MUCH easier.
 
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