Almost got busted by one of my girls by not being smart about clues

[HaleyBaron]

The longer you spin plates, the higher the risk of being discovered spinning plates by one of your plates.

Things I have learned the hard way that will minimise but never eliminate the risk:

1. Put all phone and message notifications on silent or block numbers (can unblock later) while with one plate. Also applies to your car if you have Appleplay etc. Make sure your phone is always locked and never give access to a plate no matter how much they complain or ask.

2. Conduct a thorough inspection of your place after a plate has left. Get rid of any hairs, hair ties, underwear, clothes, makeup etc. Eliminate female perfume by spraying your own perfume or a deodoriser. Don’t leave out dishes etc. that make it look like you had a visitor. Put them in the dishwasher or clean up.

3. Develop a list of plausible excuses for being busy and commit them to memory. Remember which one you use. If you involve others in your excuse and your plate knows them (not recommended) make sure they are aware of your excuse and can back you up.

4. If you need to urgently message another plate or check a message from another plate (not recommendeddo it while in the toilet with your phone on silent.

5. Check your bedsheets. Change any that are stained or wet from your bedroom activities.

Writing these makes me realise that when it comes to being faithful in a relationship I’m not the best role model.

Way too much work for too little reward.

My tip: the phone thing is fine, but she shouldn't have access to your phone in the first place. If anything, getting messages is a good thing. Keeps the mind running. And don't do all the room cleaning stuff. Sure, dont leave panties out but it's not bad if there's some evidence someone was over.

Summary: it's always good for a girl to know that you possibly have other girls. It only helps you.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Why do guys who are good with women seemingly lack integrity? Almost everybody I meet who has a similar body count to mine is a bit of a piece of sh**.

Because the two are interrelated. One can't be good with women and "have integrity" in a conventional sense. You are probably a piece of sh!t too but lack the integrity to admit it.

As for the girl knowing that OP is lying and still going along with it, that's on her. If she's willing to overlook deceit, she's asking for heartbreak.

 

[ValiantMale]

Made up for it today by inviting her over and cooking for her and taking her to mini golf. She really appreciated it. I didn't want to bring up the convo we had in text but she seemed embarassed at how she acted.. We talk about it a bit but I let her know if theres anyone else im really serious about ill let her know but until then she has nothing to worry about. One thing i wish i didnt say was something along the lines of telling her that ill try to make her feel more secure moving forward and put more of an effort for her to think im not just out for sex. she mentioned she never got that vibe from me but seemed irritated at the idea of mkaing her more secure.. because I think she feels like she lost leverage. In the beginning she had alot of it.. i kinda chased her in a way and she used to play all coy and like I had to really earn her. She def thinks in terms of having the "upper hand".. and prob feels bad now that the balls kinda in my court.

Kinda funny the whole thing because when we first started talking her whole attitude was so different andnow its clear shes super into me and i got so much of the leverage.. its nothing new to me though ive seen it all with women.

 

[BPH]

Because the two are interrelated. One can't be good with women and "have integrity" in a conventional sense. You are probably a piece of sh!t too but lack the integrity to admit it.

Strongly disagree.

Being good with women doesn't require you to be a sh**ty person.

I'm sure there are women who think I'm a piece of sh**, but it wouldn't be because I lied to them or cheated on them. Back when I slept with the girl from LR - 100 I think I noted that one of her friends was trying to talk her out of it because I had hit on her a few weeks prior, before I met the other girl.

The reason she seemed to hate me was that I'm a 31-year-old hitting on college students at a college bar, and she thought it was gross of me that I'd bang a younger, but still legal, girl. That has nothing to do with my integrity.

There was another one whom I cut off because she was becoming extremely clingy after only sleeping together once. I asked for space, which she didn't give, and she began monitoring who I followed and when, and used that cheater gym friend to find out more about me (because he knew this, and still was trying to sleep with her anyway). She probably feels like I'm a piece of sh**.

I think most guys without integrity are pieces of sh**.

But I can still be seen as a piece of sh** by a woman simply because things didn't go her way.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Tomorrow I'm going to try and do something nice to make her feel special...

Bring her along as you take out a family of 5, via drive-by, as they sip lemonade in the front lawn, or treat her to a DIY infibulation, after slipping a mickey or three into this gal's iced tea...

She'll definitely have a unique experience(s) to speak of afterwards

 

[Manure Spherian]

relationships

Can you estimate how many “relationships” you’ve had?

 

[Manure Spherian]

That doesn't answer my question. You said there is no such thing as cheating on non cohabitating relationships. I beg to differ. If a girl asks to be exclusive and you don't cohabitate and one of the members has sex with someone else, that is cheating is it not? Please explain.

I am going to try to explain this as best as I can in written word when I get a chance later.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

All of this silliness becomes a thing of the past when you play on your terms and stop being petrified of women knowing you are dating other women.

Stop pretending to be exclusive with women you aren't exclusive with.

 

[BPH]

Can you estimate how many “relationships” you’ve had?

3 serious ones.

 

[Solomon]

Strongly disagree.

Being good with women doesn't require you to be a sh**ty person.

I agree, however, most men that are *******s, ****y or ****ty tend to do well with women why is that? because most likely they have an abundance and are indifferent and we know women like men like this especially if he's attractive.

One thing society likes to say is "women are sugar and spice and everything nice" which is far from true you have a lot ****ty women out there and water seeks it's own level

 

[ValiantMale]

Stop pretending to be exclusive with women you aren't exclusive with.

@BPH

That's the thing no one is getting. I was never pretending to be exclusive.. The girl even knows theres other girls and just doesn't want them mentioned. I'm surprised how many people are easily swayed into thinking this girl is a victim or something..

Imagine telling a girl-- "yeah so when I DITCHED YOU the first tiem to go smash this other chick, she washed my dishes for me and cleaned up a bit"... There's no Logic in this.. but no matter how I tell her, that's what she'll hear. Even telling her "hey sorry im going to hang with another friend".. I know how jealous this girl is, sometimes we hold back information because 1) its our perosnal life and we dont need to share it with casual sex partners 2) we are protecting someones feelings.. even if they are irrational. I guessin some ways it IS me being selfish to want to enjoy the best of both worlds in a single day but ..sue me.. who cares why be so sensitive/cynical... its game...

I feel like people just need something to poke at or another.. and don't get it until they will reach a certain point in their game. I think for guys who already experience abundance or have, they totally get it and it doesn't need to be explained to them.

*Shakes head* i'll never understand some of your POV's.. my point of view is based on over a decade+ of experience with women.. I know what im doing, if I didn't, I wouldn't be where I'm at today.

 

[BPH]

@BPH

That's the thing no one is getting. I was never pretending to be exclusive.. The girl even knows theres other girls and just doesn't want them mentioned. I'm surprised how many people are easily swayed into thinking this girl is a victim or something..

Imagine telling a girl-- "yeah so when I DITCHED YOU the first tiem to go smash this other chick, she washed my dishes for me and cleaned up a bit"... There's no Logic in this.. but no matter how I tell her, that's what she'll hear. Even telling her "hey sorry im going to hang with another friend".. I know how jealous this girl is, sometimes we hold back information because 1) its our perosnal life and we dont need to share it with casual sex partners 2) we are protecting someones feelings.. even if they are irrational. I guessin some ways it IS me being selfish to want to enjoy the best of both worlds in a single day but ..sue me.. who cares why be so sensitive/cynical... its game...

I feel like people just need something to poke at or another.. and don't get it until they will reach a certain point in their game. I think for guys who already experience abundance or have, they totally get it and it doesn't need to be explained to them.

*Shakes head* i'll never understand some of your POV's.. my point of view is based on over a decade+ of experience with women.. I know what im doing, if I didn't, I wouldn't be where I'm at today.

I don't know why you tagged me. I already said the additional context paints a fuller picture.

I was under the impression that you were cheating on this girl, which you clarified.

 

[The Duke]

@BPH

That's the thing no one is getting. I was never pretending to be exclusive.. The girl even knows theres other girls and just doesn't want them mentioned. I'm surprised how many people are easily swayed into thinking this girl is a victim or something..

Imagine telling a girl-- "yeah so when I DITCHED YOU the first tiem to go smash this other chick, she washed my dishes for me and cleaned up a bit"... There's no Logic in this.. but no matter how I tell her, that's what she'll hear. Even telling her "hey sorry im going to hang with another friend".. I know how jealous this girl is, sometimes we hold back information because 1) its our perosnal life and we dont need to share it with casual sex partners 2) we are protecting someones feelings.. even if they are irrational. I guessin some ways it IS me being selfish to want to enjoy the best of both worlds in a single day but ..sue me.. who cares why be so sensitive/cynical... its game...

I feel like people just need something to poke at or another.. and don't get it until they will reach a certain point in their game. I think for guys who already experience abundance or have, they totally get it and it doesn't need to be explained to them.

*Shakes head* i'll never understand some of your POV's.. my point of view is based on over a decade+ of experience with women.. I know what im doing, if I didn't, I wouldn't be where I'm at today.

I think most of us get it. The question is why are you so worried about her figuring out what you are up to, afterall you aren't exclusive?

 

[Sega Genesis]

Imagine telling a girl-- "yeah so when I DITCHED YOU the first tiem to go smash this other chick, she washed my dishes for me and cleaned up a bit"... There's no Logic in this.

^^I agree however you could have avoided her interrogation by simply saying the cleaning lady did them which wouldn't be far from the truth actually as Girl B did play the role of your 'cleaning lady,' temporarily while she was there. Lol In addition to your sex slave.

It was not necessary for you to keep insisting you did them, Girl A saw right through that BS. Which places you in a negative light and fosters distrust.

I agree there is absolutely no need to lie to women. And most women appreciate the honesty!

Especially during early stages before exclusivity is ever even mentioned.

Just leave it there, no need to discuss other women unless she asks and in that case keep it to a minimum.

Be sensitive about it and diplomatic but again no need to lie.

JMO

 

[ValiantMale]

I think most of us get it. The question is why are you so worried about her figuring out what you are up to, afterall you aren't exclusive?

No one was "worried". That's your projection onto me.. If I was worried, i probably wouldn't go posting texts online to talk about it. My whole point was I felt like I handled the situation perfectly..

Plus, I think if you got it, you wouldn't be asking such silly questions. 90% of what we do when we refrain from telling women things in an honest way is to maintain peace. This is as basic as telling your wife she doesn't look fat in a dress she looks fat in.. No girl wants to feel awful knowing you went to hang with another girl after seeing her.. infact, cut your time with her short to do so.. But that's my perogative as a man that's not locked down by commitment.

What happened to this forum seriously? THis forum used to be about spinning plates, playing women, redpill philosophy.. Some of the best years were over a decade ago when i first found this place..

 

[ValiantMale]

^^I agree however you could have avoided her interrogation by simply saying the cleaning lady did them which wouldn't be far from the truth actually as Girl B did play the role of your 'cleaning lady,' temporarily while she was there. Lol In addition to your sex slave.

It was not necessary for you to keep insisting you did them, Girl A saw right through that BS. Which places you in a negative light and fosters distrust.

I agree there is absolutely no need to lie to women. And most women appreciate the honesty!

Especially during early stages before exclusivity is ever even mentioned.

Just leave it there, no need to discuss other women unless she asks and in that case keep it to minimum.

She knows I dont have a cleaning lady..thats what these girls are for haha. Nah I think i handled it well though. She really felt embarassed the next day as if she knew she was being overly irrational / being insecure. She knows she had no reason to even be in my business like that.. It's like me going to her house, seeing a sandwich out on the table uneaten and being like WAIT WHOS SANDWICH IS THIS... IT WASNT OUT BEFORE... THIS IS NOT RIGHT!

 

[Sega Genesis]

No girl wants to feel awful knowing you went to hang with another girl after seeing her.. i

No they don't but why tell her anything other than you have plans? Which is not a lie!

Like you said she doesn't (and shouldn't) need to know what you're doing this early in when you're not exclusive.

Your mistake was making up a BS story about "going out to get work done" which was a lie and bit you in the ass as Girl A saw right through it.

Just say you have other plans but will catch up with you later. Period.

That said this girl must he very highly into you (or has low standards for herself) as she overlooked the lie and now even feels guilty for doubting you!

Happy to hear it all worked out...

 

[ValiantMale]

No they don't but why tell her anything other than you have plans? Which is not a lie!

Like you said she doesn't (and shouldn't) need to know what you're doing this early in when you're not exclusive.

You're mistake was making up a BS story about "going out to get work done" which was a lie and bit you in the ass as Girl A saw right through it.

Just say you have other plans but will catch up with you later. Period.

That said this girl must he very highly into you as she overlooked the lie and now even feels guilty for doubting you!

I mean there's really no difference there besides what you believe is ethical vs what I believe is ethical.. and nothing "bit me in the ass". that's where you totally lost me.

I only said get work done because I actually had to ge twork done.. i just never got around to it. I mentioned this in one of the posts.
Regardless, you're overthinking this..

The only 2 variables is this: say something that can cause her hurt vs say something that wont cause her hurt-- regardless her trigger was not what i said necessarily, it was her seeing the dishes clean when she got back.. which was irrational no matter how u spin it. If the sandwich example didnt get you to understand, nothing will lol.

I'm done explaining myself to people right now. People who dont get it, prob never will... I feel like im talking to the wrong audience here and people who my lifestyle doesnt align with.

 

[Sega Genesis]

First of all I'm female and a man saying he has plans before exclusivity would be perfectly acceptable to me.

And would NOT trigger me...Nor would it have caused me to interrogate you about your damn dishes.

On the other hand him telling me he has 'work to do outside' when in truth he had another chick over might trigger me although I still would not have interrogated you about it.

I'd just keep that lie stored in my memory box and continue observing. If the lying continued, it's next.

That said...

I DO get your work outside plans changed and Girl B came over instead.

That's fine! What I don't get is why you felt you had to lie about it after she began questioning you?

Why not say your plans changed and a friend came over?

NOT a lie.

Again this early in and before exclusivity, it's none of her business what you're doing!

It's okay and actually good if she wonders about it! A bit of mystery goes a long way in situations like this...

As long as you give HER lots of attention when you're together, it's all good!

There are plenty of players and seducers who are quite successful with women and know how to maintain peace without lying.

It is not necessary to "keep the peace."

So don't make it sound like we're a bunch of dumbasses who "don't get it."

I wasn't on the forum when you said this was a thing? Lying to and deceiving women to keep the peace?

Is that what redpill advocates?

 

[The Duke]

No one was "worried". That's your projection onto me.. If I was worried, i probably wouldn't go posting texts online to talk about it. My whole point was I felt like I handled the situation perfectly..

Plus, I think if you got it, you wouldn't be asking such silly questions. 90% of what we do when we refrain from telling women things in an honest way is to maintain peace. This is as basic as telling your wife she doesn't look fat in a dress she looks fat in.. No girl wants to feel awful knowing you went to hang with another girl after seeing her.. infact, cut your time with her short to do so.. But that's my perogative as a man that's not locked down by commitment.

What happened to this forum seriously? THis forum used to be about spinning plates, playing women, redpill philosophy.. Some of the best years were over a decade ago when i first found this place..

So what's the point of creating this thread? Brag about how great you are?

You bet I will project my opinion based on what you have provided. Tough schitt if you don't like it. You trying to gas light again?

You seemed concerned enuff to start this thread.