All these girls want relationships

[RichardTheFrog]

Why do you keep seeing the same girl if you get bored or annoyed? stop seeing her. Otherwise you keep seeing her for a reason.

Has to do with Oxytocin which skyrockets during sex for a woman.

I've had sex with girls and gave them orgasms and they didn't fall in love with me.

Why do I see the same girl? I don't. I don't even see the same hookers more than once unless it's by accident. But why don't I just "spin some plates?" Because I have no control over that. If someone likes me right now, it could be 10 years before someone likes me again.

 

[nicksaiz65]

What's your personality like?

How old are you and how old are the girls? Are you still in college or younger?

Honestly it depends on the situation lol. I guess I'd be an outgoing nerdy type.
And I'm 21 in college, girls are 20

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Honestly it depends on the situation lol. I guess I'd be an outgoing nerdy type.
And I'm 21 in college, girls are 20

Okay well it was easy back then even for me.

10 years later I gotta buy a fvcking Lamborghini for them to even remember my name.

 

[wifehunter]

Women are the gatekeepers of sex (primarily what we need)

Men are the gatekeepers of protection and provisioning “relationships” (what they need)

This is the oldest social dynamic between the sexes and understood both overtly and covertly by both

Which is why You can’t ever truly expect a female, no matter what she says, to fulfill her end of the bargain without you following through on yours

Sure, there are slvts and easy girls but this is precisely the reason we frown on them and usually why there’s something not “right” with them

It’s the same as when you’re a hardcore orbiter without even getting a hummer for your troubles. Imagine how MAD you’d be

 

[nicksaiz65]

Being in a relationship and consistent sex have nothing to do with each other.

I know that's true but I'm not good enough to get sex on a regular basis just yet lmao

 

[fastlife]

It’s not them, it’s you. A couple factors are at play:

• They sense that your value is at an upward trajectory but that you haven’t internalized that value yet: Just like a good investment opportunity, the most favorable terms for a potential investor will be had when a company is still a little ‘desperate’ & hasn’t realized its full potential.
• You’re subcommunicating a bf vibe: Again, because you’re still a little ’desperate’. Why give it away for free, when you’re on the brink of commitment? Your best play is to disqualify yourself. I do this by talking about other girls, telling them I’m a free spirit, hitting on other girls in front of them—but it took a lot of work to build that frame. Start small & just talk like a guy who has options & won’t commit.
• You’re not sexual enough: Providers aren’t comfortable with their sexuality. Lovers are. The rules change drastically. Work on talking more about sex (not sex w/ her, just sex in general) & making bold eye contact. You’ll probably be incongruent at first, but work on getting to the point where you can talk about sex with no hang ups or sense of shame.

You’re at a stage we’ve all been thru—but be careful. Plenty of girls will be trying to lock you down at a favorable (for them) rate—and since there’s an apparent embargo for intimacy you’ll be inclined to rationalize one of these girls as being higher quality than they really are. This might be a good learning experience, but it’ll knock you out of the game for a couple years & expose you to long term risks (especially if you knock her up).

My advice, and 21 y/o me wouldn’t’ve taken it, is to avoid commitment at all costs until you are capable of achieving abundance. This process will be painful, expose you to more social pressure, leave you with long azz dry spells, but the rewards, in the end, are innumerable. You’ll come into a better relationship with yourself & be able to see things much more clearly. Remember, the girls that demand commitment don’t charge all of us that same price & act very differently around the guys who sexually excite them.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Just look the girl in the eye and tell her she'll end up getting hurt, and you don't want to hurt anybody. Women will respect that.

 

[nicksaiz65]

It’s not them, it’s you. A couple factors are at play:

• They sense that your value is at an upward trajectory but that you haven’t internalized that value yet: Just like a good investment opportunity, the most favorable terms for a potential investor will be had when a company is still a little ‘desperate’ & hasn’t realized its full potential.
• You’re subcommunicating a bf vibe: Again, because you’re still a little ’desperate’. Why give it away for free, when you’re on the brink of commitment? Your best play is to disqualify yourself. I do this by talking about other girls, telling them I’m a free spirit, hitting on other girls in front of them—but it took a lot of work to build that frame. Start small & just talk like a guy who has options & won’t commit.
• You’re not sexual enough: Providers aren’t comfortable with their sexuality. Lovers are. The rules change drastically. Work on talking more about sex (not sex w/ her, just sex in general) & making bold eye contact. You’ll probably be incongruent at first, but work on getting to the point where you can talk about sex with no hang ups or sense of shame.

You’re at a stage we’ve all been thru—but be careful. Plenty of girls will be trying to lock you down at a favorable (for them) rate—and since there’s an apparent embargo for intimacy you’ll be inclined to rationalize one of these girls as being higher quality than they really are. This might be a good learning experience, but it’ll knock you out of the game for a couple years & expose you to long term risks (especially if you knock her up).

My advice, and 21 y/o me wouldn’t’ve taken it, is to avoid commitment at all costs until you are capable of achieving abundance. This process will be painful, expose you to more social pressure, leave you with long azz dry spells, but the rewards, in the end, are innumerable. You’ll come into a better relationship with yourself & be able to see things much more clearly. Remember, the girls that demand commitment don’t charge all of us that same price & act very differently around the guys who sexually excite them.

Makes sense to me. She’s kind of a nice innocent girl on the surface, but she’s been talking about how bad she wants to fvck me lately lol. She just got out of a relationship, and she was like she doesn’t want to fvck just for the sake of fvcking, cause that’s “dirty” or whatever. I’m really torn on this. On one hand she really is cool and cute, but on the other hand like you said I’d be removing myself from the game and I’m not quite there yet.

 

[nicksaiz65]

You tell them the truth

I’ve said in the past that I make it very clear to women from the start that I’m not looking for anything serious early on.

Some will fall back but in my experience, most don’t. They claim the same thing and go along for the ride until...

Guess what? 3 months or even a year or more down the line guess who eventually demands more?

At that point, i can’t be held accountable for promises I never made.

Being honest with women is more about covering your own ass and staying true to yourself than it is about extending any type of courtesy to them, tho there’s also that

So I guess you’d just break it to them during the “what are we” talk?

 

[fastlife]

So I guess you’d just break it to them during the “what are we” talk?

Before that. Your frame for any potential relationship starts from the moment you say hello.

What do YOU want? You're the cap'n, cap'n. She doesn't know what she wants--she wants to go on a ride. What ride are you offering cap'n? A whirlwind romance? Unpredictable late night texts? Something steadier?

Give her the reigns & she'll make both of you unhappy. But give her a role in your life & she'll love living up to it.

Women's--or should I say hypergamy's--biggest fear is being tricked. Mislead. Deceived. Betatize yourself after an alpha first impression & watch her despise you. Promise investment you can't follow through on at peril to your social standing.

Make your signal clear. Broadcast your intent. Stick to your frame. She may or may not want on board, but women are far, far more flexible & less principled than you'd ever imagine. Let her audition for the available parts in your life.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Why does this always happen?

Basic biology lesson.

Men are programmed by DNA to bang anything that will let them.

Women are programmed by DNA to KEEP any male of sufficient quality.

It's been this way since the dawn of time.

It's nothing more than human nature.

Understand, however, that what a woman says while she's trying to get you INTO a relationship is very much like what a man says when he's trying to get a woman INTO bed.

Anything and everything to make it happen, so take every relationship request with a HUGE grain of salt.

If any salesman or marketer had the persuasion skills of a girl trying to get a guy into a relationship they'd be RICH beyond belief.

Consider this as the price of playing the game.

Your job is bang girls like crazy and ONLY get into relationships IF and ONLY IF they meet your VERY STRICT and pre-established criteria.

Otherwise you have a very NICE and coveted male problem.

Banging girls who want to KEEP YOU is a good problem to have.

Be careful.