"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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All Of You Dudes Are Hunks In Your Own Eyes 7+ It Seems

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It seems strange that you are on a PUA site, yet are also way above average in your looks, are you all really 7 and 8's, or are you daydreaming.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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7 or 8???? Jeez man... i'ma 9.5 :D ... I'm on here cuz um... hmm... not sure actually... but its fun, w/ some cool guys on the board.

Plus the social psychology of attraction is fascinating as well.
 

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Fuglydude said:
7 or 8???? Jeez man... i'ma 9.5 :D ... I'm on here cuz um... hmm... not sure actually... but its fun, w/ some cool guys on the board.

Plus the social psychology of attraction is fascinating as well.
If I claimed to be a 3/10 in looks it would dent my ego, if I said that I was a 9/10 everyone would flame me, but a 7/10 is easier to get away with. :crackup:
 

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Deus ex Pianoforte said:
No, looks just don't matter. Stop creating looks threads.
Looks obviously do matter my freind because none of you ever admit to being unattractive dudes, I know that many of you may be handsome but shy, but all being 7+ I cannot beleive that. :confused:
 

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I'm f*ckin hot man. Not because I think so but because this asian b*tch I met last night sleeping in my bed next to me, the girls i'm seeing and my female co workers tell me so. Ulitmately it doesn't matter how I view myself but the opinions of those who matter most in the discussion (females) deem it to be so.

Sh*t I have to get this girl out of my house! I need to go to work...and I'm f*cking hungry!!!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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a bunch of idiots arguing about how good they look, and no one posts a pic

sosuave is officially retarded now
 

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Deus ex Pianoforte said:
You can't believe that because you have a closed mind, and you must be 7 or below if you can't comprehend a very prevalent phenomenon. And as for people not admitting they're ugly, give me a break. You've been here for 5 months, and still don't know that you get flamed for posting looks threads. There's even dudes out there with NAMES discussing their ugliness. "Fuglydude", anyone?
To tell you the truth I don't even know what number that most girls would label me as, it doesn't really bother me either, I just wonder how these dudes get to place a number on themselves that is always a high one.
This isn't a "Looks Matter" thread as such, it is more that I have noticed that most dudes place a high number on their looks which makes me wonder why they are here, is it what they really think, I just don't know.
 

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What good would posting a pic do? No one needs to be validated by other men. I don't like it when men hit on me as it is and I feel very uneasy when random internet peeps tell me I'm attractive. Besides, we all base looks on what WE want and try to focus on what makes us look attractive individually so what's the point of arguing over who here's attractive and who isn't?

I really do need to get this b*tch out of my bed though. I have the tv on, i'm playing music and i'm typing nosily on my lap top and she's still like a f*ck log. Hell I've showered and alls i need is my dress shirt and belt and I'll be ready for work. WTF? Some people just don't take a hint!!!
 

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All The Answers said:
so all the idiots that are arguing how hot they think they are can backup their arguments
Uhhh, did you read the rest of my post?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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PRMoon - Have you actually tried to wake her up, or maybe she is away and waiting for you to kick her out?

Haha I never said how good looking I was, I personallly think I am an ice cold 4 :p

Smoke
 

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SmokeX said:
PRMoon - Have you actually tried to wake her up, or maybe she is away and waiting for you to kick her out?
She's a f*cking lazy b*tch that's what she is. I've been telling her I need to go to work for the last hour or so! She keeps warding my hand off and saying "five more minutes...please i need sleep" This b*tch doesn't work till 4 in the f*cking afternoon! She can sleep at her own f*cking place!!! I need food! (I'm dieing for an in and out burger right now) and i need to make that money!!!
 

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I have no aversion to posting a pic...keep in mind though that my most updated pics are from our last photoshoot...so they're professionally done by a dude who does shoots for a lot of fitness stuff.

So if you guys wanna check out my rack... feel free! :D Here's my myspace...

http://www.myspace.com/147255898

Awaiting the flames....
 

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PRMoon said:
I'm f*ckin hot man. Not because I think so but because this asian b*tch I met last night sleeping in my bed next to me, the girls i'm seeing and my female co workers tell me so. Ulitmately it doesn't matter how I view myself but the opinions of those who matter most in the discussion (females) deem it to be so.

Sh*t I have to get this girl out of my house! I need to go to work...and I'm f*cking hungry!!!
You may well be a hot man, I don't know, there must be some reasonable looking dudes who post on these forums, but I don't think they all are.
I know that there are many ugly ladies who write on various sites and also some hot ones, I think it must be the same with the dudes here.
Ugly girls do seem to be more honest about their looks or lack of it than the dudes are, is their any reason behind this fact.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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SmokeX said:
Hmm Push her off the bed and be like ***** get the **** out. Lol!
I just now got her to take a shower so i can drop her off directly at work. This is going to save me a ton of time thank god. I can hit up the EDR before I go to work. I'll be damned if i'm buying breakfast for this chick after this fiasco!
 

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Fuglydude - You are not bad looking I would give you a 8/10. Mind you I am a bisexual dude. So it doesn't matter what I think really.
 

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PigAdlemPimp said:
Ugly girls do seem to be more honest about their looks or lack of it than the dudes are, is their any reason behind this fact.
Even pretty girls get down on themselves a lot. Media sets more unrealistic standards for girls to live up to (supermodels and other teen idols) who are unnatrually beautiful make for inferiority complexes in women very common. Hence why there are so many cases of bulimia and weight control and plastic surgery occurances for women.
 

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PigAdlemPimp said:
Looks obviously do matter my freind because none of you ever admit to being unattractive dudes, I know that many of you may be handsome but shy, but all being 7+ I cannot beleive that. :confused:
The looks don't matter thing is something that's been sold to them. Anyone that is selling PUA always markets that so the uglies will pay for their workshops, books, crap, etc.

Take the mini-me guy. If he wasn't in that movie and was just a regular joe. No amount of PUA material would ever have him rolling in the pu$$y.
 

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SmokeX said:
Fuglydude - You are not bad looking I would give you a 8/10. Mind you I am a bisexual dude. So it doesn't matter what I think really.
haha thanx man... ya, in all honesty, I don't think I'm that attractive at all, but I do love to joke about it...I NEED to do all the positive self talk stuff to get my confidence boosted up before i get on stage cuz if you're not confident dancing, you'll SUCK and it won't be fun.

I've actually danced at some "alternative" (bisexual/homosexual) clubs before just doing solos...sometimes there's really hot girls there! Overall, its easier to dance at those places cuz i don't really care what the dudes think of me...but its pretty creepy cuz you kinda know what they're thinking! Plus the money is really good too.
 
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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