"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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All Of You Dudes Are Hunks In Your Own Eyes 7+ It Seems

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It seems strange that you are on a PUA site, yet are also way above average in your looks, are you all really 7 and 8's, or are you daydreaming.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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7 or 8???? Jeez man... i'ma 9.5 :D ... I'm on here cuz um... hmm... not sure actually... but its fun, w/ some cool guys on the board.

Plus the social psychology of attraction is fascinating as well.
 

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Fuglydude said:
7 or 8???? Jeez man... i'ma 9.5 :D ... I'm on here cuz um... hmm... not sure actually... but its fun, w/ some cool guys on the board.

Plus the social psychology of attraction is fascinating as well.
If I claimed to be a 3/10 in looks it would dent my ego, if I said that I was a 9/10 everyone would flame me, but a 7/10 is easier to get away with. :crackup:
 

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Deus ex Pianoforte said:
No, looks just don't matter. Stop creating looks threads.
Looks obviously do matter my freind because none of you ever admit to being unattractive dudes, I know that many of you may be handsome but shy, but all being 7+ I cannot beleive that. :confused:
 

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I'm f*ckin hot man. Not because I think so but because this asian b*tch I met last night sleeping in my bed next to me, the girls i'm seeing and my female co workers tell me so. Ulitmately it doesn't matter how I view myself but the opinions of those who matter most in the discussion (females) deem it to be so.

Sh*t I have to get this girl out of my house! I need to go to work...and I'm f*cking hungry!!!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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a bunch of idiots arguing about how good they look, and no one posts a pic

sosuave is officially retarded now
 

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Deus ex Pianoforte said:
You can't believe that because you have a closed mind, and you must be 7 or below if you can't comprehend a very prevalent phenomenon. And as for people not admitting they're ugly, give me a break. You've been here for 5 months, and still don't know that you get flamed for posting looks threads. There's even dudes out there with NAMES discussing their ugliness. "Fuglydude", anyone?
To tell you the truth I don't even know what number that most girls would label me as, it doesn't really bother me either, I just wonder how these dudes get to place a number on themselves that is always a high one.
This isn't a "Looks Matter" thread as such, it is more that I have noticed that most dudes place a high number on their looks which makes me wonder why they are here, is it what they really think, I just don't know.
 

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What good would posting a pic do? No one needs to be validated by other men. I don't like it when men hit on me as it is and I feel very uneasy when random internet peeps tell me I'm attractive. Besides, we all base looks on what WE want and try to focus on what makes us look attractive individually so what's the point of arguing over who here's attractive and who isn't?

I really do need to get this b*tch out of my bed though. I have the tv on, i'm playing music and i'm typing nosily on my lap top and she's still like a f*ck log. Hell I've showered and alls i need is my dress shirt and belt and I'll be ready for work. WTF? Some people just don't take a hint!!!
 

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All The Answers said:
so all the idiots that are arguing how hot they think they are can backup their arguments
Uhhh, did you read the rest of my post?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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PRMoon - Have you actually tried to wake her up, or maybe she is away and waiting for you to kick her out?

Haha I never said how good looking I was, I personallly think I am an ice cold 4 :p

Smoke
 

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SmokeX said:
PRMoon - Have you actually tried to wake her up, or maybe she is away and waiting for you to kick her out?
She's a f*cking lazy b*tch that's what she is. I've been telling her I need to go to work for the last hour or so! She keeps warding my hand off and saying "five more minutes...please i need sleep" This b*tch doesn't work till 4 in the f*cking afternoon! She can sleep at her own f*cking place!!! I need food! (I'm dieing for an in and out burger right now) and i need to make that money!!!
 

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I have no aversion to posting a pic...keep in mind though that my most updated pics are from our last photoshoot...so they're professionally done by a dude who does shoots for a lot of fitness stuff.

So if you guys wanna check out my rack... feel free! :D Here's my myspace...

http://www.myspace.com/147255898

Awaiting the flames....
 

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PRMoon said:
I'm f*ckin hot man. Not because I think so but because this asian b*tch I met last night sleeping in my bed next to me, the girls i'm seeing and my female co workers tell me so. Ulitmately it doesn't matter how I view myself but the opinions of those who matter most in the discussion (females) deem it to be so.

Sh*t I have to get this girl out of my house! I need to go to work...and I'm f*cking hungry!!!
You may well be a hot man, I don't know, there must be some reasonable looking dudes who post on these forums, but I don't think they all are.
I know that there are many ugly ladies who write on various sites and also some hot ones, I think it must be the same with the dudes here.
Ugly girls do seem to be more honest about their looks or lack of it than the dudes are, is their any reason behind this fact.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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SmokeX said:
Hmm Push her off the bed and be like ***** get the **** out. Lol!
I just now got her to take a shower so i can drop her off directly at work. This is going to save me a ton of time thank god. I can hit up the EDR before I go to work. I'll be damned if i'm buying breakfast for this chick after this fiasco!
 

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Fuglydude - You are not bad looking I would give you a 8/10. Mind you I am a bisexual dude. So it doesn't matter what I think really.
 

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PigAdlemPimp said:
Ugly girls do seem to be more honest about their looks or lack of it than the dudes are, is their any reason behind this fact.
Even pretty girls get down on themselves a lot. Media sets more unrealistic standards for girls to live up to (supermodels and other teen idols) who are unnatrually beautiful make for inferiority complexes in women very common. Hence why there are so many cases of bulimia and weight control and plastic surgery occurances for women.
 

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PigAdlemPimp said:
Looks obviously do matter my freind because none of you ever admit to being unattractive dudes, I know that many of you may be handsome but shy, but all being 7+ I cannot beleive that. :confused:
The looks don't matter thing is something that's been sold to them. Anyone that is selling PUA always markets that so the uglies will pay for their workshops, books, crap, etc.

Take the mini-me guy. If he wasn't in that movie and was just a regular joe. No amount of PUA material would ever have him rolling in the pu$$y.
 

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SmokeX said:
Fuglydude - You are not bad looking I would give you a 8/10. Mind you I am a bisexual dude. So it doesn't matter what I think really.
haha thanx man... ya, in all honesty, I don't think I'm that attractive at all, but I do love to joke about it...I NEED to do all the positive self talk stuff to get my confidence boosted up before i get on stage cuz if you're not confident dancing, you'll SUCK and it won't be fun.

I've actually danced at some "alternative" (bisexual/homosexual) clubs before just doing solos...sometimes there's really hot girls there! Overall, its easier to dance at those places cuz i don't really care what the dudes think of me...but its pretty creepy cuz you kinda know what they're thinking! Plus the money is really good too.
 
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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