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All of this rejection is making me depressed

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The beta male is the most common male. He's the guy swiping like a maniac when he's single. Some betas are able to cold approach, but mainly with alcohol involved. He might do some warm approaching in social groups, such as co-ed sports leagues. If they are bottom fishing, it is Meetup groups. If a guy is doing non-bar cold approaching, he isn't likely to be a beta. When he's in a relationship, which he's in so that he doesn't experience sexual droughts, the woman controls him via access to her vagina. Beta males live in constant fear of having their vaginal access cut off.

I'm not sure how common cucking is. In recent decades, women in relationships have upped their rates of infidelity. Women have closed the infidelity gap with men. I think most men leave after they discover the affair. I think there are men that are unknowingly cucks while the women are going behind their backs.

I think most MGTOW men are men who have constantly been sent to the reject bin. Trauma happens first before a man goes MGTOW. Incels are the most extreme versions of MGTOWs. While all incels are MGTOW by default, not all MGTOWs are incels. If a MGTOW is getting laid more, he might be somewhat of a PUA.

To me, blackpill is a fatalistic viewpoint and redpill is the notion that the societal narrative is bullshiit. Redpill leans towards self improvement and enjoying the declining, whereas blackpill is a more jaded attitude about the redpill.
Good lord god help the beta males. Now we living in the world who runs by women in extension self from beta males.

For centuries the world are run by masculine men and we have a fair share of women regardless of mens tier,

as women predominantly control the market of smv, we all have this all sort of comunity that has risened since few decades ago when 2nd waves of feminisme hits on 60's.. This what happened when the natural order set by god has been interupted.

When god is not involves in marriages it will no longer served it purposed and leads to men and women suffering.

Hope the world took this as a hard lesson for the next generation to even have any hopes..

Blackpill are going to be the future if beta males and women are leaves uncheck.
 

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Yeah, it's a topic that's popular on this forum. What's more important? Looks? Money? Status?

I say Game is the most important. Then Looks, Money, Status.

I've seen how powerful Game is, both for myself and other guys I know who have it. It's really the number 1 most important thing to have if you want to bang a lot of ladies.

Understanding how the female mind works is crucial to appreciating how important having Game actually is. You can literally cast spells on women with your words, body language and behavior. I'd even venture to say that women are very hack-able.
My view is status, women will do some real weird stuff if you have status. Ive seen it many a time, from different men.

you can literally message like a dyslexic if you have social status & she will think its sexy/carry the convo.
 

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all i can say is when i truly stopped caring about having a woman in my life i never felt such a sense of freedom and well being before. I dont know if its my age or if im just numb to wanting to date anymore but i just dont care anymore. I have zero tolerance for drama or bs anymore and it seems the less im interested in women the more they are interested in me. I think what saves me is having other focuses and passions in life now that are higher priorities than chasing tail and getting laid. It's very freeing is all i can say. I guess its a mindset but whatever it is im happier than i have ever been before because stay or leave i just dont care.
 

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all i can say is when i truly stopped caring about having a woman in my life i never felt such a sense of freedom and well being before. I dont know if its my age or if im just numb to wanting to date anymore but i just dont care anymore. I have zero tolerance for drama or bs anymore and it seems the less im interested in women the more they are interested in me. I think what saves me is having other focuses and passions in life now that are higher priorities than chasing tail and getting laid. It's very freeing is all i can say. I guess its a mindset but whatever it is im happier than i have ever been before because stay or leave i just dont care.
Mordern women doesnt brings any much of value or serenity of peace in a relationship anymore.. Im single, doing rotional plate and grind on excellence.
 

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The beta male is the most common male. He's the guy swiping like a maniac when he's single. Some betas are able to cold approach, but mainly with alcohol involved. He might do some warm approaching in social groups, such as co-ed sports leagues. If they are bottom fishing, it is Meetup groups. If a guy is doing non-bar cold approaching, he isn't likely to be a beta. When he's in a relationship, which he's in so that he doesn't experience sexual droughts, the woman controls him via access to her vagina. Beta males live in constant fear of having their vaginal access cut off.
Would you consider yourself a beta male then since you are only dealing with a two women rotation you met before the pandemic and have given up on cold approaching?
 

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exactly!! And it's how I explain the fact that i've banged some girls way out of my league despite not being good looking.
People think i'm gonna pat myself on the back and claim it was my super advanced 'game', but that's bull****. Game isn't black magic. We can't make girls sexually attracted too us with pushpull and dhv's and an understanding of female psychology etc. Just marketing BS. Watch infields from coaches and how they get rejected so much. Her mind is basically made up after 'hi'.

I banged them girls beacause for whatever reason, they thought I was fairly hot (physically). They maybe had unusual taste lol. And form there I had enough 'game' to escalate without sperging out

As you say, I used to work for a logistics company and the offices was mainly all young girls. Some very hot. These lasy cows would spend all day on insta and stuff DMing random guys who they thought were hot and stuff whilst they were supposed to be working, and whilst there was a general consensus, there was always one girl who seemed to have VERY different taste to the rest and would get teased like ''You think HE's hot!!? He's so skinny!! His nose is big!!'' etc etc, but she found him hot. She was also probably the hottest of the group lol
Interesting point on looks. Good looking guys / chads simply appeal to a broader range of girls, while average or sub-average looking guys may just appeal to a niche category who is into that type. So you had to find a niche girl which comes from shifting through all of the rejections, etc.... and struck gold because someone liked your looks.

In my mind I think your looks changes if you also cold-approach or run game. Your face is more animated and there is more positive energy as a net, so being out and about socially has to add to your overall looks too.
 

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all i can say is when i truly stopped caring about having a woman in my life i never felt such a sense of freedom and well being before. I dont know if its my age or if im just numb to wanting to date anymore but i just dont care anymore. I have zero tolerance for drama or bs anymore and it seems the less im interested in women the more they are interested in me. I think what saves me is having other focuses and passions in life now that are higher priorities than chasing tail and getting laid. It's very freeing is all i can say. I guess its a mindset but whatever it is im happier than i have ever been before because stay or leave i just dont care.
That's a good cope. We can see how good the blackpill is.
 

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Most of the times when people talk about rejection they aren’t talking about a 10 second cold approach on some random girl. They’re talking about someone they’ve talked to and gotten to know. That’s the stuff that messes with your mind.
That's why you should actively avoid getting to know women that aren't with the program.
 

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That's why you should actively avoid getting to know women that aren't with the program.
That’s the thing. They put on the ACT like they’re with the program until they aren’t all of a sudden. They say and do all the right things in the beginning.
 

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That's a good cope. We can see how good the blackpill is.
Really, that is more MGTOW than it is black pill. I can't really see anything good that comes from the black pill. But, I also don't really understand MGTOW either. I legitmately enjoy women and want to sleep with them. So, both are foreign concepts. If black pill helps you cope with life in general then more power to you.
 

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That makes me want to date women even less to be honest.
This is your main issue. You are looking for reasons to dislike women. You want women to think exactly like men think and make decisions based upon logic and reason and to show "respect." It's not how they are programmed. You are better off being MGTOW if that is something you can't come to grips with.
 

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I dont wanna give up but its tough out there
It seems something deeper than only being rejected by someone. I would try to address some past experience that you might felt rejected and comprehend how it is affecting you in adult life.

I can understand a bit how you might be feeling cause I had problems with that. Was rejected by women, friends and family when I was young and it took a while to change my relationship with that.

What I suggest: try to dont create much expectation over someone. Accepting that rejection may happen in some situation helps to deal with that. Its ok if someone say no or reject you. Its not your fault and ure not bad or unworthy because of that. The same way someone says no to you, you might say no to someone in some moment and thats completely normal.

Focus on understanding that relationship you internalized about rejection. The more you understand, the more you cure it.

Hope you stay well. If depression is to hard to deal, try to find a good therapist. I have it too and therapy helps a lot.

Wish you the best man! :)
 

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Really, that is more MGTOW than it is black pill. I can't really see anything good that comes from the black pill. But, I also don't really understand MGTOW either. I legitmately enjoy women and want to sleep with them. So, both are foreign concepts. If black pill helps you cope with life in general then more power to you.
MTGOW is blackpill. Who here does not enjoy women? But they have to want you too.
 

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MTGOW is blackpill.
I am no MGTOW expert - but I would disagree. MGTOW - Men Going Their Own Way - is simply men who have decided to pursue other interests and cut women out of their life. Nothing more. Black Pill are men who borderline hate women because they perceive women only care about physical or financial characteristics of men and nothing else - these men tend to give up on women and become incels because they think they aren't good enough to attract them. Sure, there can be overlap, heavy overlap in fact, between the two concepts. But I disagree they are one in the same.
 

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I am no MGTOW expert - but I would disagree. MGTOW - Men Going Their Own Way - is simply men who have decided to pursue other interests and cut women out of their life. Nothing more. Black Pill are men who borderline hate women because they perceive women only care about physical or financial characteristics of men and nothing else - these men tend to give up on women and become incels because they think they aren't good enough to attract them. Sure, there can be overlap, heavy overlap in fact, between the two concepts. But I disagree they are one in the same.
...and you meet the physical and financial characteristics?
 

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...and you meet the physical and financial characteristics?
A couple of posters here know what I look like. I would say I am good looking guy - and I make good money. I also do well with women. So I guess the answer would be yes.
 

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This is your main issue. You are looking for reasons to dislike women. You want women to think exactly like men think and make decisions based upon logic and reason and to show "respect." It's not how they are programmed. You are better off being MGTOW if that is something you can't come to grips with.
Actually I had way more success when I was young a naive about women lol
 

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A couple of posters here know what I look like. I would say I am good looking guy - and I make good money. I also do well with women. So I guess the answer would be yes.
That sort of undermines your whole arguement then. Maybe you would not like women that much if they were not attracted to you and you had to escortcel. Saying you "legitimately like women" sounds hollow.
 
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