Age shaming ramping up for men who play the field after the age of 30.

[Jesse Pinkman]

I am not sure if I am the only one noticing this but lately, I have witnessed that a lot of people out there (often men themselves) are age shaming guys who are not in a monogamous relationship. It used to be far less common a decade ago as @Solomon might attest to but it is in recent years I have seen this shift. In fact, I remember a time in the Red Pill space where the idea was to spin plates and in some cases, even be a playboy until you die. They often hyped up a man's 30s.

But the age shaming of guys who sleep around is making waves throughout mainstream. A famous example is Drake getting gaslighted for going for younger women and not having a family, something that people kept poking at during his beef with Kendrick Lamar.

The other guy I see get it a ton on Twitter is Mike Majlak. Literally every post is people gaslighting him for being 40 and still sleep around.

I just find this whole thing unfolding to be a bit strange. How we went from "spin plates" and "don't get married because marriage is a sham" a decade ago in masculine spaces to "why are you not married with kids in your 30s?".

Like it is as if in the span of a decade, the Player has gone from being loved to loathed by his fellow man.

 

[BPH]

Like it is as if in the span of a decade, the Player has gone from being loved to loathed by his fellow man.

I think it's just a matter of those who can't being upset at those who can.

There's a quote that's been thrown around a lot, so I don't know who it's from originally, but it's along the lines of "hate comes from below".

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I think it's just a matter of those who can't being upset at those who can.

There's a quote that's been thrown around a lot, so I don't know who it's from originally, but it's along the lines of "hate comes from below".

It is I who originated the bucket crab theory. You are welcome good sir.

 

[zekko]

But the age shaming of guys who sleep around is making waves throughout mainstream. A famous example is Drake getting gaslighted for going for younger women and not having a family, something that people kept poking at during his beef with Kendrick Lamar.

Is he being gaslit for playing the field or for going after younger women? Women (and society, to a lesser extent) have been shaming guys for going after younger women for decades.

 

[SW15]

But the age shaming of guys who sleep around is making waves throughout mainstream. A famous example is Drake getting gaslighted for going for younger women and not having a family, something that people kept poking at during his beef with Kendrick Lamar.

This happened to NFL quarterback Aaron Rodgers and I made a thread about it at the time.

Aaron Rodgers: NFL QB Shamed in NY Post Article for Being a Bachelor Stud

https://nypost.com/2023/01/06/aaron-rodgers-dating-life-makes-pete-davidson-seem-demure/ End Quote... “Aaron is like the eternal teenage boy,” Rob Shuter said. “He seems to get infatuated but it never lasts very long. He acts more like someone 22, not someone pushing 40.” In his lifetime...

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There's also a reason for my thread about my blue pill ideology social circle all choosing to copy one another's lifestyles. At one of the weddings in my social circle, the girlfriend in one of the couples gave a marriage ultimatum at the wedding reception and my male friend eventually caved into it as compared to facing some social shaming for being a bachelor after age 30. The males in my primary social circle have all copied each other with monogamous marriages, buying single family houses in the suburbs, having children, and having dogs.

I was the only male in my primary social circle to question that path and I made the bold decision to pursue my own path. That's part of the inspiration for my lone wolf avatar.

Pregnancy Announcements Everywhere! Life When Your Blue Pill Social Circle Starts Having Babies

Yesterday, I was on my Instagram and saw a pregnancy announcement from an acquaintance's wife in my social circle. I don't particularly like her. I find it annoying to be around her the 1-2 times a year I ever randomly see her in person. Right now, there are 3 women from my local area social...

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[CornbreadFed]

Because most of it was Marketing BS to get guys to buy their course/coaching. Society was never built to embrace older bachelor men and honestly the older I get the more I understand why. I am about to lose a college friend because of this situation right now.

 

[SW15]

Society was never built to embrace older bachelor men and honestly the older I get the more I understand why.

I think there's a case that society embraces older, never married, childless women more than it embraces older, never married, childless men.

 

[GoodMan32]

I am not sure if I am the only one noticing this but lately, I have witnessed that a lot of people out there (often men themselves) are age shaming guys who are not in a monogamous relationship. It used to be far less common a decade ago as @Solomon might attest to but it is in recent years I have seen this shift. In fact, I remember a time in the Red Pill space where the idea was to spin plates and in some cases, even be a playboy until you die. They often hyped up a man's 30s.

But the age shaming of guys who sleep around is making waves throughout mainstream. A famous example is Drake getting gaslighted for going for younger women and not having a family, something that people kept poking at during his beef with Kendrick Lamar.

The other guy I see get it a ton on Twitter is Mike Majlak. Literally every post is people gaslighting him for being 40 and still sleep around.

I just find this whole thing unfolding to be a bit strange. How we went from "spin plates" and "don't get married because marriage is a sham" a decade ago in masculine spaces to "why are you not married with kids in your 30s?".

Like it is as if in the span of a decade, the Player has gone from being loved to loathed by his fellow man.

It could be simply because a guy changes as he gets older.

For example, when I was 20, I enjoyed being with a wide variety of girls. In April 2012, I remember I set up a date mid-week for that coming Saturday with a girl on OkCupid, asked out a girl from one of my classes that Friday (she said yeah), then had sex with some girl from Craigslist on Saturday morning (before my afternoon date with the OkCupid girl)

At 34, I only want to be with one woman.

 

[plumber]

it doesn't matter what they all think. i matters what she feels.

older guy with younger woman. that model has been around forever.

think.. who is doing the shaming.

- older women
- younger guys.

now why would they do that....

 

[ValiantMale]

I haven't experienced that shaming but then again I thinkit sdifferent when you actually pull and have girls around all the time vs just being single with no bitches. Alot of dudes who "Play the field" dont get too many women and have trouble keeping good ones.. so it makes sense to look down on them.

With a guy like Mike, people are jealous that he gets alot of poon and dated a retired pornstar and all that. I get jealous men around me too. one of my close friends was jealous of me for years and I knew it too but I didn't call him out ever.. I Just ended up dropping him as a friend as time went on.

 

[CornbreadFed]

I think there's a case that society embraces older, never married, childless women more than it embraces older, never married, childless men.

Because women are better at integrating the same lifestyles, upgrading shared experiences, and sharing similar priorities with society while men do not which puts them in an isolated us vs them mindset.

For example, my interests do not include going to a club twice a week, trying to be your wingman, inviting you to a mutual friend event so you can just hit on every girl there, and going to your minimalistic smelly studio apartment to smoke weed/rot on some sofa. This is obviously an exaggeration, but I feel over 30s single men do these things to a certain degree. Do what you want because it is your life, but I am just giving out reasons on why I had to exit some friendships later down the road.

 

[BaronOfHair]

I just find this whole thing unfolding to be a bit strange

Spending more than 1 microsecond per month fretting over other folks's opinions of us(Including their disapproval over which consenting adults we choose to love) yields undesirable side effects such as those

 

[BackInTheGame78]

People get upset when others do what they wish they could do but either can't because they made poor decisions prior or can't because they don't have the looks or skills to pull it off and don't want to do anything to address them.

So they resort to trying to drag others down to their level instead of trying to climb up to his.

 

[BaronOfHair]

People get upset when others do what they wish they could do but either can't because they made poor decisions prior or can't because they don't have the looks or skills to pull it off and don't want to do anything to address them.

So they resort to trying to drag others down to their level instead of trying to climb up to his.

I seriously haven't heard much of what OP claims has become pervasive. Unless we're now equating every quip about Bill Bellichick, Ewan MacGregor, David Foster, and that no-name who wifed up Alexandra Daddario marrying/having babies with much younger women to "age shaming"

 

[Bingo-Player]

This is a trope that's going to be mostly perpetuated by women in their late 20's and 30's who haven't settled themselves and are annoyed they don't have the same volume of options for a partner they did in their early 20's

The majority of men (kinks aside ) always have and always will prefer to shop at the younger end of the sexual market because younger women are generally easier going and arguably in better natural shape thats without all the fertility stuff

A lot of women are terrified of aging as they know the competition increases and attention decreases as each year passes , they want to maintain the standards and options they had in their early 20's but are also aware that the clock is ticking loudly

One of my female friends is actually going through it now she's 34 is saying she wants to settle yet is struggling to accept what is realistically available in her market

Men in their 30's providing they've looked after themselves and have some experience with women are not in the same sort of predicament , a man in his 30's can go date & fvck the 25 year old or the 35 year old it doesn't really matter to him

My current GF is 23 , I'm happy to settle with her because I've done pick up for a long time and want a break but last year I went on a very hot streak and I'm 33 never had anyone give me and grief about it.

 

[CornbreadFed]

This is a trope that's going to be mostly perpetuated by women in their late 20's and 30's who haven't settled themselves and are annoyed they don't have the same volume of options for a partner they did in their early 20's

The majority of men (kinks aside ) always have and always will prefer to shop at the younger end of the sexual market because younger women are generally easier going and arguably in better natural shape thats without all the fertility stuff

A lot of women are terrified of aging as they know the competition increases and attention decreases as each year passes , they want to maintain the standards and options they had in their early 20's but are also aware that the clock is ticking loudly

One of my female friends is actually going through it now she's 34 is saying she wants to settle yet is struggling to accept what is realistically available in her market

Men in their 30's providing they've looked after themselves and have some experience with women are not in the same sort of predicament , a man in his 30's can go date & fvck the 25 year old or the 35 year old it doesn't really matter to him

My current GF is 23 , I'm happy to settle with her because I've done pick up for a long time and want a break but last year I went on a very hot streak and I'm 33 never had anyone give me and grief about it.

Most men will not be able to fvck 20 year olds in after the age of 30. Meanwhile, women will be pretty much chased after by men they want until maybe their 60s. In addition, most women don't care about younger men and are content with dating men their age or older, so a woman that is 40 will attract more men in her desirable smv range than a guy that is 40 because he does not prioritize older women.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

These hater dudes are probably just ordinary guys who are making the connection between body count and bad female behavior. And more importantly, the increase of women damaged from this.

 

[Vanderdonck]

I've dated way younger women and never given a flying F what people think. Who cares.

 

[SW15]

my interests do not include going to a club twice a week, trying to be your wingman, inviting you to a mutual friend event so you can just hit on every girl there, and going to your minimalistic smelly studio apartment to smoke weed/rot on some sofa. This is obviously an exaggeration, but I feel over 30s single men do these things to a certain degree. Do what you want because it is your life, but I am just giving out reasons on why I had to exit some friendships later down the road.

Parts of your exaggerated description are relevant in interactions between 30+ men.

Unattached, never married men 30+ often see their friendships/acquaintanceships diminish with men 30+ in relationships (usually married men) because married 30+ men do not want to ever serve as their wingmen at nightlife venues. I have seen this happen with most of my local friends/acquaintances. Among my primary social group (the one featured in "Pregnancy Announcements Everywhere"), it is nearly impossible to get any of those guys to ever serve as a wingman to me in a nightlife venue. I can see some of the guys in that group for non-pickup related things (though not as often I would like). The guys who were more of acquaintances are guys I see even less because I'm seeing the true friends less. Married men and married parents of younger children tend to be absorbed in their worlds.

Over the years, I have shifted more of my game to non-bar approaching (which has downsides) and going solo at nightlife venues (not recommended, though not the worst thing ever).

I have also found it difficult to make new friends with other 30+ males in similar spots to me. If I had been more successful with that, I might have had more wingman options.

It's common for unattached men to try to get their attached friends to get them into mutual friend events where it is known that unattached women in the social sphere will be present. There was one time where I hounded one of my married friends over an introduction to his wife's co-worker who was single at the time. This introduction never happened because the woman was fairly prudish sexually and I have been known to escalate sexually. That woman eventually got married to some guy off of a relationship oriented swipe app after making him wait for sex for a time far longer than I would have waited.

Most men will not be able to fvck 20 year olds in after the age of 30.

When a man turns 30, he is going to find it difficult to get with 18-24 year olds. 25-29 year olds are still feasible for most earlier 30s men.

For 35+ men, all women in their 20s are going to be challenging.

Most men in their 30s/40s are pussie beggars for women who are similarly aged and often mediocre looking.

Meanwhile, women will be pretty much chased after by men they want until maybe their 60s. In addition, most women don't care about younger men and are content with dating men their age or older, so a woman that is 40 will attract more men in her desirable smv range than a guy that is 40 because he does not prioritize older women.

Roosh wrote about this in 2014.....

The Wall Is Softer Than We Think

A man’s prime in terms of value to women falls somewhere in his 30′s. Even at this stage, when he is most attractive to women, he will still find it harder to find worthy mates than a woman the same age as him. This is how one-sided the dating game—at least in the West—is skewed to the woman’s favor,

Men are so desperate for women that they will date way below their value in order to achieve a basic relationship. This means that they will not only accept—but fight over—a spinster woman at 35 who finally has decided to stop getting pumped and dumped.

The typical 35 or 40 year old woman is going to be more in demand in the sexual marketplace than similarly aged males.

 

[justaroundthecorner]

What's wrong in calling Peter Pan's behaviour a Peter Pan's behaviour?

Don't get me wrong but since I am father of a daughter, my dream for her is to eventually meet guy that is not more than 5 years older than her (and preferably bluepilled) if she will start dating at the age of 18 and not more than 7-8 years older than her if she will not find a BF until 25 or so and I will actively oppose any idea of dating +10 years older guys at least until that point as for me as I want what is best for my my family and IDGAF about older players if they will cross any plan I make for my family.

I am coherent about it - for me a cougar high school teacher seducing nearly 20 years younger 18 years old male student is as close to word "pedophile" as she can get.