AFCness is a deeply ingrained disease that can re-surface at any moment

[The Bat]

Is she just a ****-tease?

Can't win 'em all. Move on, brother.

 

[Dongfu]

Is she just a ****-tease?

Can't win 'em all. Move on, brother.

I really dont believe that she is. She really wants to have sex, but has her very particular, semi-secret reasons for withholding. We all know that women will withhold sex when they have high interest in developing an LTR. Easy to understand. But she does not want an LTR with me, because I dont want kids and she does. SHe claims to be withholding because she likes to fantasize about the guy for a while, and get so worked up that she has to have him. This is great, but I feel she can fantasize and wait it out while I do something else - fvck other girls for example, rather than get frustrated from spending time making out with her etc. but not getting any further.

She is also not the type who needs to be thrown down and taken aggressively. This is a mind fvck waiting game, battle of wills, with no guarantee of a positive outcome. But I really do want to fvck her

 

[BipedGod]

I'm adding to my initial post, she's never been promiscous, she is not easy, she is trying to make you think you have a chance...you have very little chance, she is waiting for mister right...read $$$$$ if she is beautiful mr. deep pockets will tag the kitty not you...so go get some $$$$

 

[BipedGod]

I'm adding to my initial post, she's never been promiscous, she is not easy, she is trying to make you think you have a chance...you have very little chance, she is waiting for mister right...read $$$$$ if she is beautiful mr. deep pockets will tag the kitty not you...so go get some $$$$

 

[Vendetta081789]

You know. The problem I have always faced when next'ing a woman to win her is this:

When you win her back. What's to stop her from getting bored again? Do you really plan on playing cat and mouse for the rest of your life? No you don't. If she is playing games, and you are looking for a LTR, then this is not the approach for you.

 

[Dongfu]

She knows I am only Mr. Right Now, and she is cool with that. I feel that what she is doing may be some form of passive aggressive behavior resulting from her past traumas. I may represent the guy who has it so easy with the ladies, the same guy that fvcked her over before, and now she is getting revenge.

What she fails to realize is, if I ever do get to fvck her, that is when her game ends and everything is in my court. She already knows how I can make her feel in bed, as she has vocalized it: "I can tell you are an amazing lover." If we ever do get to bed, she will be added to the list of women who had me for a minute, mesed it up some how, and got nexted. For now I am nexting her until further notice.

I just ran into her at the store. I was on my way to go surf and I am doing a liver cleanse today. She said, "Your motivated, I'm proud of you." The nerve.

 

[Vendetta081789]

You've made the right choice by next'ing her. Now make the harder decision, and don't go back.

 

[KontrollerX]

You know. The problem I have always faced when next'ing a woman to win her is this:

When you win her back. What's to stop her from getting bored again? Do you really plan on playing cat and mouse for the rest of your life? No you don't. If she is playing games, and you are looking for a LTR, then this is not the approach for you.

This is a good question and why I love Anti Dump's machine so much.

It basically nexts all the women not interested in you for you and your unique qualities and keeps those women who love you the way you are.

His machine is pretty much common sense in my view where as other programs from other DJ's have you focus on building attraction and wasting time.

Not that this isn't also a valid way of going about things in the DJ game but I prefer AD's method.

 

[Dongfu]

It basically nexts all the women not interested in you for you and your unique qualities and keeps those women who love you the way you are.

This is how I have mostly operated. This girl is interested in me for who I am. But it is more complicated than that. That's why I was planning on giving it a rest.

But in an unforeseen turn of events, I broke a rib surfing today, and I need her help bringing me food and medicine etc. The fvcking irony. It's the story of my life.

 

[BuckwildNYC]

Maybe it's just me but I dont think guys need "breaks". That really sounds like such a chick thing to say. Like you are sooo overwhelmed with emotion that u need to take a step back. I say just play it cool man. Freeze her out. Hang out with her but dont be all over her. Sorry to hear u are injured but this is a great opputunity. Let her step up to the plate. See how much she'll do for you. If she'll cook and clean and take care of you then what the hell would you need with a break?

Maybe she's not into casual sex.....alot of chicks think that giving a guy sex is like giving him her heart and soul. Just play it cool and she will come around. In the mean time juggle a couple chicks so u aren't only relying on her for sex. And if she never comes around then nothing gained nothing lost.

 

[mikeyb]

"Aw, he's frustrated." She said this after I attempted to slightly escalate kino one night, and she shut me down. Can you believe that?

That woman could stand to be taken down a notch or two!! If any girl said that to me, chances are I'd just get p*ssed and leave :trouble:. And she got away with saying all that other stuff too? That girl is a man-trap!!

On second thought, she'd probably freak out if you suddenly appeared to lose interest in having sex with her .

Don't NEXT her - if you're thinking about it, then you're still seeing clearly and she doesn't control your feelings. She's obviously very detached and playful about this whole thing, but suppose she fell for you, then she'd probably make the ideal girlfriend. I say keep working her, take the opportunity to get rid of those AFC feelings once and for all and be that much stronger.

May the force be with you .

 

[Dongfu]

Maybe it's just me but I dont think guys need "breaks". That really sounds like such a chick thing to say. Like you are sooo overwhelmed with emotion that u need to take a step back. I say just play it cool man. Freeze her out. Hang out with her but dont be all over her. Sorry to hear u are injured but this is a great opputunity. Let her step up to the plate. See how much she'll do for you. If she'll cook and clean and take care of you then what the hell would you need with a break?

Good post. I agree completely. But just to clarify, the "break" would have been a non-emotional break. Not because I am over whelmed with emotion but just to deprive her of my company for a little while. I would still have seen her on occasion, but definitely without any physical stuff. I already did that for a couple days. Now that I am injured she IS stepping up - bringing me food and movies.

Maybe she's not into casual sex.....alot of chicks think that giving a guy sex is like giving him her heart and soul. Just play it cool and she will come around. In the mean time juggle a couple chicks so u aren't only relying on her for sex. And if she never comes around then nothing gained nothing lost.

She WILL come around, but the question is when? It could take months. I am juggling a couple others now, but I am still more interested in this one. Anyway thanks for the solid advice.

 

[Dongfu]

If any girl said that to me, chances are I'd just get p*ssed and leave :trouble:.

I was intentionally making an effort to not reveal frustration. She must have caught the slightest glimpse, and that was all she needed to reaffirm her position of control.

she'd probably make the ideal girlfriend.

Thats my feeling, and the only reason I have hung in there. I usually have no interest in a GF, but she has all the qualifications to be a great one. Once I nail her, she will have no more power over me. That's just the natural order of things.

 

[osu13]

It has been quite a while since I have felt frustrated or average with women. Recently however, I have met my match. The female in question is extra ordinary. Aside from being extremely beautiful, she cooks amazing food, massages me all the time, buys me stuff, takes me places, is never *****y, never clingy, never puts any expectations on me, and on and on. She has almost every quality I look for in a woman.

Bro this is exactly how it is. Im just trying real hard not to **** it up if you know what i mean. I have spent so long being a guy who picks up a lot of women and now I dont know what to do with a relationship????

and what the hell is up with girls being able to call or text when u haven gone on a date yet and then when u start dating they feel weird calling cause you are suppose to call them..... it frustrates me

 

[Dongfu]

I have spent so long being a guy who picks up a lot of women and now I dont know what to do with a relationship????

Me neither. I have been pro-friends with benefits for a few years now. I intentionally avoid GF's, but now it suddenly I've met a GF worthy girl. More irony in my life.

 

[DonGorgon]

The saddest p[art is that our inner AFC is prone to come out when we meat a woman that we really genuinely like .... it is instinctive to want to do nice stuff for her etc... so best bet is to go after girls you dont like that much...LOL

 

[Dongfu]

The saddest p[art is that our inner AFC is prone to come out when we meat a woman that we really genuinely like .... it is instinctive to want to do nice stuff for her etc... so best bet is to go after girls you dont like that much...LOL

Great realization.

But the real challenge then is remaining non-AFC with women you generally like. If you fall in love, your chances of degeneration go up even more dramatically. This dynamic seems to be the core issue for all recovered AFC's.