"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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A cute 21 year old is coming around to watch DVD's at my place tonight and I dig this girl,we have been to the movies and talk and text a lot...she is always saying let's do this and let's do that (good signs right?) I just need to know how to get her to stay the night because to be honest I'm kind of rusty at all this ****.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Build the anticipation. Like David D says - one step forward, two steps back. Work on all of her five senses. Touch her hair and smell her before you kiss her. Good luck.
 

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You shouldn't worry about her staying the night. If it happens it happens. Just focus on having a good time. Have some drinks. Sit in close proximity and play with her hair. Go fo the kiss and some make out time if you feel like it. Just go with the flow. If shes coming over to watch movies she pretty much expects you to put some moves on her.

Good luck
 

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Originally posted by Bible_Belt
Build the anticipation. Like David D says - one step forward, two steps back. Work on all of her five senses. Touch her hair and smell her before you kiss her. Good luck.
awesome...thanks...
 

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well she came over and things were nice , we chatted,laughed lots and had some red wine, watched a DVD and there was lots of flirting and touching but when it came to the end of the night, it was kind of awkward and i went for the kiss subtly but only got the cheek and a nice hug.

I'm in the friends zone aren't I?.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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It looks like it.

You said that you and her, "talk and text a lot." That's probably not helping. Act busy, always end the interaction first, never call her when she expects, don't call much at all. IM sucks, btw, if she has you listed as a buddy and can see when you are on the net. Use IM sparingly, otherwise it destroys mystery.

To get out of the friend zone, you could play the jealousy card. Go on another date (really do it; don't just lie about it). Very casually mention it to the 21 y/o and watch for a response. Don't overdo it. Be very subtle.

Give it a couple of weeks, but if you are still in the friend zone, then it is time for her to start introducing you to her friends.
 

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Originally posted by Bible_Belt
It looks like it.

You said that you and her, "talk and text a lot." That's probably not helping. Act busy, always end the interaction first, never call her when she expects, don't call much at all. IM sucks, btw, if she has you listed as a buddy and can see when you are on the net. Use IM sparingly, otherwise it destroys mystery.

To get out of the friend zone, you could play the jealousy card. Go on another date (really do it; don't just lie about it). Very casually mention it to the 21 y/o and watch for a response. Don't overdo it. Be very subtle.

Give it a couple of weeks, but if you are still in the friend zone, then it is time for her to start introducing you to her friends.
I can't work her out, she has a boyfriend yet she is spending time with me alone...she flirts with me, yet when I went in for the kiss I got the cheek and it felt awkward, we can't just be friends can we?.

She obviously enjoys my company and calls me to make plans and it's not chat I use it's texting on a mobile phone.

Should I just move on?, and yeah the room mate met her and did a fake hello and then acted up in the kitchen laughing really hard at what the other room mate was saying...I found that quite sad it seemed to be an act.
 
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