"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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whatup boys, need some advice here...

the quick and dirty:

girl in my class, gives me looks, whatever, get her number, send her a text on a friday, she responds but says she's busy, im like eh whatever, a week later on friday i text her again, no response. strike 2. then a week later, over T-giving, i text her asking if she's in the area ( i think she lives somewhat near me), no response. so im like eh, i can take a hint....NEXT


then, after class the other day, on my way out she comes up and starts talking to me..WTF?? should i CALL as opposed to TEXT? lol... i have no idea.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Just because she's talking to you it does not mean she's interested. She just liked the attention you gave her.
 

DonGorgon

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young cute girls have many men to choose from and often they have to ignore many or the guys chasing or they will not have time to even breath.. its 50% and the skill once you get lucky enough to get a response.
 

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Wait till she asks you out now. You have offered on three occasssions, now its her turn.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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women haze

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Cinamon said:
Wait till she asks you out now. You have offered on three occasssions, now its her turn.
Bad Advice:down: because she is not going to call him...Men always make the first move.
 
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sooo..... yes or no on asking her out in person when i see her? or at least asking her where she stands / what she wants? i mean, at what point does it become creepy/off-putting? but i feel like if she doesnt want anything to do with me, she wouldnt come up and talk to me, right? is she pretty much telling me she's interested, but come stronger/differently????
 

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princeofpersia420 said:
sooo..... yes or no on asking her out in person when i see her? or at least asking her where she stands / what she wants? i mean, at what point does it become creepy/off-putting? but i feel like if she doesnt want anything to do with me, she wouldnt come up and talk to me, right? is she pretty much telling me she's interested, but come stronger/differently????
She came to to talk to you because she's being nice.

It's becoming creepy/off-putting already because you aren't even dating this girl and you're already over-thinking about this.

Who cares how she feels about you. That's total AFC thinking.

Don't hesitate, be a man and ask her out in person.
 
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schoolboy, truth, thats what i needed to hear. if she rejects me in person, that aint a hint, thats the truth.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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women haze said:
Bad Advice:down: because she is not going to call him...Men always make the first move.
Men dont always make the first move, plenty of girls are happy to pursue guys. If someone asked me out a coupleof times and I genuinly couldnt make it, I know it would be down to me to ask them out the next time if i liked them.
 
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but cinamon, she's really shy and says she "doesn't get out much"....despite being super cute....could this affect things? ah **** it, im gonna ask her next time i see her...some girls are too cute to care about this **** with
 

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The bigger problem here is why are you trying to make plans with her on a FRIDAY NIGHT. You should have other things to do. Now she knows you have absolutly nothing going on on party nights.
 

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I agree with sitting back, and if/when she calls, cool... nail it down. If not (and she probably wont), theres no sense in "devaluing yourself" by calling again. Go spin plates. Actions speak louder than words (if she doesn't call, theres no interest).
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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