"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Advice: don't be a frustrated a$$hole, like me

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So yea i mentioned her before to ya'll... we flirted a little bit last semester, thought we had some chemistry. thought she was a cool person cute, etc. She never said "no" to hanging out with me, seemed to always be down for that... But i've been showing some interest in her, but havent been seeing much initiative in return from her - which made my blood boil little by little as days/weeks went on. Tonighti came from this frat that im rushing for, a little buzzed, tired, knowing that I gotta wake up early tomorrow = not in the best mood.

I see her name online, say "hey" "how your doing" she doesnt even respond. Then logs off. I fvcken SNAPPED! Left her a message like "ur ignoring me like this now? wat you think your too fvckin good for me huh?? no, fvck that - never let my eyes see you again!". I went on a friken rampage like a half hour ago, in my dorm in college. Including punching walls, throwing chairs, cups, etc., even told a neighbor if u got any drugs give me some now or ill probably end up killing somebody i swear...

And now I relaxed, had a cigarette, and thought to myself - what the hell did this little girl do to deserve such a reaction from me? Absolutely nothing bad.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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You got problems kid!! You are a perfect Capt'N Sav-A_Ho who will die a miserable death!!
 

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HandyAndy said:
lol, you lost your cool cuz she didnt respond to you??? Get a life dude, your stressing over one girl..
chill the fuk out


yo, you need to control your emotions, i hope you realize that. start thinking about that. showing no emotions is better than showing any emotions in this world.

next time, when you get mad. KEEP it to yourself, smoke another cig, chill and relax. showing anger to any female doesnt benefit at all.

wish you the best of luck
 

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So now i feel like a retard.. surprise surprise

Why do i act/feel the way I do? They say Your first few years in life as a baby impact you greatly forever. i lived with grandparents, and for my grandma especially, I was her life, and her reason to live - she loved more than anything, like I was her little angel. Fast foreward 15-20 years: I STILL want, and expect to be accepted, and loved. I subconsciously think "HOW DARE somebody not love me?!", "wat kind of a terrible person would not wanna give me what I want?"
-I need to get rid of this programming, now that its hurt me before.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Thanks to ya'll who are reading this. Especially Dan said it right. I CANNOT stand games, and being played by ANYBODY - im not a fvcken yo-yo.
 

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I learned alot from this site, and some of player supreme's podcasts. They really made sense to me even though I didn't listen to that many. But they really stick out in my mind. What I say in my other posts - its nothing man, its just a combination of what ive learned from others, plus common sense, plus learning lessons from life.
 
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DJVladdy said:
So now i feel like a retard.. surprise surprise

Why do i act/feel the way I do? They say Your first few years in life as a baby impact you greatly forever. i lived with grandparents, and for my grandma especially, I was her life, and her reason to live - she loved more than anything, like I was her little angel. Fast foreward 15-20 years: I STILL want, and expect to be accepted, and loved. I subconsciously think "HOW DARE somebody not love me?!", "wat kind of a terrible person would not wanna give me what I want?"
-I need to get rid of this programming, now that its hurt me before.
You have to give people reason to love you!! Give me the reasons of why you are so lovable!!! Selfish people are the worst people!!! It is not about you!!!! It is about humanity!!!! Get over it now or die!!!!!
 

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No LMS, the reason WHY I reacted in that manner is.........
cuz im the opposite of a fvcken capatian save a ho.
That's a chump who will stick around a dumb bytch who dissed his sorry ass in the past, and pretend to be her friend in order for a chance to get laid... putting up with her bull****, doing her favors, listening to the stupid wr0re bytch about how men are evil........
a.k.a trying to save a ho.

No, **** that! im a far as it gets from some1 like that.
 

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DJVladdy said:
So yea i mentioned her before to ya'll... we flirted a little bit last semester, thought we had some chemistry. thought she was a cool person cute, etc. She never said "no" to hanging out with me, seemed to always be down for that... But i've been showing some interest in her, but havent been seeing much initiative in return from her - which made my blood boil little by little as days/weeks went on.

Dude, as soon as she doesn't return the interest, you have to back off immediately. If you were a salesman and a customer came to buy a car, they showed a little interest and the beginning but then decided to think about for a little while, would you pick up the phone and say "listen, you better show some damn interest in this car or I'm going to do the unthinkable to you?"

I see her name online, say "hey" "how your doing" she doesnt even respond. Then logs off. I fvcken SNAPPED! Left her a message like "ur ignoring me like this now? wat you think your too fvckin good for me huh?? no, fvck that - never let my eyes see you again!".

What were you expecting her to say? "I'm in love you, come over and I'll let you inside my pants as soon as you walk in the door" ? "You make me so horny I'm going to explode?" You know it doesn't work that way and everyone else here does. Maybe she didn't respond because was tired and had a test the next day, maybe it her roomate online and not her, maybe her msn logs off when there is inactivity for 5 min, or maybe, just maybe, she saw your message and thought she would call you the next instead of chatting on msn.

I went on a friken rampage like a half hour ago, in my dorm in college. Including punching walls, throwing chairs, cups, etc., even told a neighbor if u got any drugs give me some now or ill probably end up killing somebody i swear...

I'm scared to found out what you would do if she told you she has a boyfriend that she lets to she her naked and inside her. Hope they have a good security system in place at your U

And now I relaxed, had a cigarette, and thought to myself - what the hell did this little girl do to deserve such a reaction from me? Absolutely nothing bad.
Yes, she did nothing bad. I'm just curious what her response is going to be.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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DJVladdy said:
No LMS, the reason WHY I reacted in that manner is.........
cuz im the opposite of a fvcken capatian save a ho.
That's a chump who will stick around a dumb bytch who dissed his sorry ass in the past, and pretend to be her friend in order for a chance to get laid... putting up with her bull****, doing her favors, listening to the stupid wr0re bytch about how men are evil........
a.k.a trying to save a ho.

No, **** that! im a far as it gets from some1 like that.
No, what you describe is a man who is supplicating to a female to gain her favor, in hopes that she may, one day, be so satisfied with his gratitude that she will reward him with her affection - not for him being a man but because he acted out of his nature and protected and served that which should not be protected nor served!! :rolleyes:

You are out of control kid - because you seek that which is unworthy - know this!!!
 

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Im in Boston, and yea Ill prolly meet up with Skip soon - we talk online sometimes.

LMS: I'm not politically correct. I have little patience for dumbasses. I dont pull a fake American smile just cuz "its the polite thing to do". I call a square a square and circle a circle, and ive hurt people because of that, including my loved ones. I say what's on my mind.

Now for the "lovable" part. Bro, i know you dont know me, but im one of those rare people that if your on good terms with me, and you call me at 3 o clock at night saying you are in trouble or need my help, Ill be there for you immediately, no questions asked. I like to have fun and socialize, and I'm a people's person. I've never been unfair, or EVER fvcked any1 over in my life. I don't backstab people, and if people will backstab me, they will pay for it, no doubt about that.
So basically, if you are good to me, I'll be twice as good to you. But, do not even have a thought in your mind to ever fvck with me.

Mike Tyson said this in his documentary: "hey you know I wanna love everybody, but first you gotta love me too."
 

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it sounds like that b1tch deserved some sort of reprimand, but yeah, you probably went a little overboard with the "never let me see you again" stuff
 
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DJVladdy said:
Im in Boston, and yea Ill prolly meet up with Skip soon - we talk online sometimes.

LMS: I'm not politically correct. I have little patience for dumbasses. I dont pull a fake American smile just cuz "its the polite thing to do". I call a square a square and circle a circle, and ive hurt people because of that, including my loved ones. I say what's on my mind.

Now for the "lovable" part. Bro, i know you dont know me, but im one of those rare people that if your on good terms with me, and you call me at 3 o clock at night saying you are in trouble or need my help, Ill be there for you immediately, no questions asked. I like to have fun and socialize, and I'm a people's person. I've never been unfair, or EVER fvcked any1 over in my life. I don't backstab people, and if people will backstab me, they will pay for it, no doubt about that.
So basically, if you are good to me, I'll be twice as good to you. But, do not even have a thought in your mind to ever fvck with me.

Mike Tyson said this in his documentary: "hey you know I wanna love everybody, but first you gotta love me too."
I don't question your manhood, I question your state of mind!!! Why place such value for a woman - she didn't respond in a millisecond and you lost control - why?

You are out of control because of a woman - you are the type of men that die sooner than they should - but who deserve to die because they are a menace to society!!! Quit going berserk over hos!!!
 
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You and Skip are always going off on girls who reject you.
Every time you do that, YOU LOSE.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Hey Noob, nah i havent seen her, because this was last night lol. She knows she should probably stay away from me now anyways.

Thank you guys for your advice :)
 

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Well done for actually realising you went crazy, I think you've just won the battle.
 

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Yea I realized it ur right.
I greatly appreciate your medical consultation, nobody, but I'll pass, thank you.

And obviously I wont get a reply from her. When i cut someone out of my life, i actually mean it. Not like you.
 
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Yea I realized it ur right.
I greatly appreciate your medical consultation, nobody, but I'll pass, thank you.

And obviously I wont get a reply from her. When i cut someone out of my life, i actually mean it. Not like you.

I see, when exactly did you cut her out of your life... When punching the walls or throwing the chairs?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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