"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Advantages of Your Height

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Saw this video the other day. Since height is such a frequent topic on here, I thought I'd share it. Find your height and hear what advantages you have. For instance, the taller you are, the lower your expected lifespan. I had heard some say this was a myth, but it makes sense to me as presented here: The taller you are, the more cells you have, the more likely some mutate, etc. Anyway, maybe it will make some feel better about your height, whatever it is.

 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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For EVERY guy who blames his incel-dom on his height, the truth is, his height has nothing to do with it.
So if a guy is 5’2” and struggles to get dates, you’re going to claim his height has nothing to do with it?
 

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So if a guy is 5’2” and struggles to get dates, you’re going to claim his height has nothing to do with it?
how likely it is for a guy to be 5’2’’ ?

from what everyone agrees on is that height has a normal distribution, which means that 68% of the height sits within 1 standard deviation from the mean, 95% within 2 and 99.7% within 3 standard deviations

in the USA the average height for a male is 5’10’’ and a standard deviation of 3’’

so at 5’2’’ you are in the bottom 0.15% of height

Yeah, if that is the case then you are f8cked but most of the guys complaining about height are maybe average in height

You just can’t come up with crazy examples to prove a point

looking through these height stats I kinda realized that even the social media focus “ he needs to be 6’ “ is actually not something that exaggerated. Basically it means to be slightly above average and usually comes from girls whom are slightly above average themselves
 
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how likely it is for a guy to be 5’2’’ ?

from what everyone agrees on is that height has a normal distribution, which means that 68% of the height sits within 1 standard deviation from the mean, 95% within 2 and 99.7% within 3 standard deviations

in the USA the average height for a male is 5’10’’ and a standard deviation of 3’’

so at 5’2’’ you are in the bottom 0.15% of height

Yeah, if that is the case then you are f8cked but most of the guys complaining about height are maybe average in height

You just can’t come up with crazy examples to prove a point

looking through these height stats I kinda realized that even the social media focus “ he needs to be 6’ “ is actually not something that exaggerated. Basically it means to be slightly above average and usually comes from girls whom are slightly above average themselves

Or maybe that woman is a little shallow . I happen to be the average 5’10. Never had any problems with women. But then I am also a 8-9 in looks . But honestly, I can’t take credit for that. My parents were both very good looking. I just got lucky.
 

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Or maybe that woman is a little shallow . I happen to be the average 5’10. Never had any problems with women. But then I am also a 8-9 in looks . But honestly, I can’t take credit for that. My parents were both very good looking. I just got lucky.
I'm 5'8" and use to clean up on OLD when I used it regularly. Probably a 6 in looks but my build and being in elite shape definitely pushed me up some especially for women who placed a high importance on that aspect.

But even during times I wasn't in the best shape, I still did well for myself. Personally I think women just have a single bucket for "in shape/muscular" and as long as you are in it, being elite versus just muscular with some extra body fat doesn't move the needle much.
 

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Personally I think women just have a single bucket for "in shape/muscular" and as long as you are in it, being elite versus just muscular with some extra body fat doesn't move the needle much.
I think I've got a naturally chubby face, so have to get to "elite" to get the face card.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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So if a guy is 5’2” and struggles to get dates, you’re going to claim his height has nothing to do with it?
If you have to go that extreme, I think you're proving my point.

You're looking at less that 0.1% of men who are under 5'2. Of course if you're hunchback, that'll affect your dating.

But for "normal" shortness like a guy who's 5'6, it's not his height.
 

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Saw this video the other day. Since height is such a frequent topic on here, I thought I'd share it. Find your height and hear what advantages you have. For instance, the taller you are, the lower your expected lifespan. I had heard some say this was a myth, but it makes sense to me as presented here: The taller you are, the more cells you have, the more likely some mutate, etc. Anyway, maybe it will make some feel better about your height, whatever it is.

It is not about height bro
 

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But for "normal" shortness like a guy who's 5'6, it's not his height.
Then what is it? Sosuave keeps saying height is not a factor, but Sosuave does not say what IS the factor.

Sosuave: "Its not a man not being 6'0".
Sosuave user: "Then what is it?"
Sosuave: <Silence>

Sosuave: "Its not a man not being 6'0"
Sosuave user: "Then what is it?"
Sosuave "Everything else"

What kind of answers of these? If you pinpoint "what it is not", you have to pinpoint "what it is", otherwise the statement fails the logic test and its an emotional statement.

If man answers like this with a hot 23 year old girl, she would make his head spin in 3.2 seconds. Yet we are supposed to believe Sosuave sleeps with hot women.

Rock on!
 

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A Hot 23 year old is just a hot Young Chick.
 

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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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It is not about height bro
What's not about height? I guess you're talking about dating. Height is an advantage in the dating world, but it's just one tool in the shed. I've never said you can't date if you're not 6'0". I can imagine though that if you're 5'4", that might present some challenges. Not challenges that can't be overcome, but I'm sure they're there. I'm 5'10", I've always said my height doesn't seem to hurt me or help me, dating wise.

In any case, the video I posted is not about dating per se, it's about various biological and mechanical advantages for different heights.
 

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What's not about height? I guess you're talking about dating. Height is an advantage in the dating world, but it's just one tool in the shed. I've never said you can't date if you're not 6'0". I can imagine though that if you're 5'4", that might present some challenges. Not challenges that can't be overcome, but I'm sure they're there. I'm 5'10", I've always said my height doesn't seem to hurt me or help me, dating wise.

In any case, the video I posted is not about dating per se, it's about various biological and mechanical advantages for different heights.
Oh sorry if you were talking about something unrelated to picking up girl and dating. I assumed you were referring to dating. I do agree Is a tool but a bad tool too
 

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Oh sorry if you were talking about something unrelated to picking up girl and dating. I assumed you were referring to dating. I do agree Is a tool but a bad tool too
The video is about height in general, but I wouldn't have posted it here if height weren't discussed so much as a dating issue.
Height is one of those things that is a factor, but you can't do anything about, so there's no sense dwelling on it. Unless you want to break your legs and get height surgery, which I certainly wouldn't recommend.

The real big issue I've seen debated here is whether or not to lie on OLD about your height. I've never done any OLD, so I don't know anything about it. But guys here say a lot of women filter out any guy under 6'0", so they say they put down that they are 6'0", even if they are not. I don't like this idea because I don't like lying, plus I feel like if they can't accept me the way I am, they can take a flying leap, you know?
 

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I think the biggest joke in this thread is people claiming there are many guys as tall as 5'2"
This is not realistic at all for male height.

Wanna know how tall Danny Devito is? 5'0"
That's basically dwarf height.
2 inches taller than 5'0" is still dwarf height.

Dwarves have a connected community of their own.
So yes even shorter people are getting laid, but you don't hear about it because it's disconnected from the mainstream media.
Dwarves date other Dwarves.
 
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