"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Action date at the club?

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So I called this myspace ***** out of boredom to set something up, and she said she wanted something exciting when I mentioned hanging out at the movies (this would be our second date). So she suggested we go to the club in the city. I'm not attracted to her, so I figure it would be fun for me to mingle with other girls at the club, so I said why not.

Should I go ahead and use her to get other girls or is she just wanting to dance with me? Either way, it'll be fun for me since I've never been to a club.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Use her to get other girls? I wouldn't even goto the trouble to setup a date with this girl if you aren't attracted to her. You can always start up a conversation with girls at the club, which will get just as much attention.

It sounds like to me that you're overthinking things a lot. Just go out, have fun, and talk to some women. Having another girl with you isn't necessarily going to get you 'in' with other girls.
 
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Vanilla said:
So she suggested we go to the club in the city. I'm not attracted to her, so I figure it would be fun for me to mingle with other girls at the club, so I said why not.

Should I go ahead and use her to get other girls or is she just wanting to dance with me? Either way, it'll be fun for me since I've never been to a club.
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Never been to a club? Ouch.

Maybe she's using you to make other guys at the club jealous.
 
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DonJuan11 said:
Never been to a club? Ouch.

Maybe she's using you to make other guys at the club jealous.
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I haven't been since I would feel weird going by myself. She did sound excited that I wanted to go, but I was thinking it was just because she gets a chance to look at the other guys. Clearly I'm wrong about that and I thank you guys ahead of time.
 
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