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I recently dated a 19 y.o. we vibed like crazy, but both her and mine circles were against it. Which we both COMPLETELY understood.
Here is a man talking whose been on all sides of the fence. Major differences between me and most in this thread. My pov comes from REAL life experiences, not solely theory.
What did your daughter think about her dad dating someone a year older than her? Do you know that girl's father? What did he think?

You come up with some very harsh posts for someone who has dated a 19 year old (which I'm assuming she told you but was really 16 years old, but you'd be at fault for rape if she decided to call the police because her lying about her age does not matter), have been with young escorts (ie who probably called you daddy as some do when there is an age gap) and yet you are virtually signalling like crazy against older pedos preying on younger girls by saying "hello". I thought you were making some modicum of sense apart from the hookers, but if you are saying you dated (ie and vibed like crazy, implied sleeping with) then that is hypocritical to be down on the OP and the story he presented here like that.

The only difference is it sounds like, between you and others is that you have a different reaction from the women you approached and you have a daughter. In principle it sounds like you are doing the same exact thing you are condemning others about.
 
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Complicated situation for sure, but that’s low from James Tusk. My respect for him definitely dipped

He should’ve released a statement standing up for his student.
 

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What did your daughter think about her dad dating someone a year older than her? Do you know that girl's father? What did he think?

You come up with some very harsh posts for someone who has dated a 19 year old (which I'm assuming she told you but was really 16 years old, but you'd be at fault for rape if she decided to call the police because her lying about her age does not matter), have been with young escorts (ie who probably called you daddy as some do when there is an age gap) and yet you are virtually signalling like crazy against older pedos preying on younger girls by saying "hello". I thought you were making some modicum of sense apart from the hookers, but if you are saying you dated (ie and vibed like crazy, implied sleeping with) then that is hypocritical to be down on the OP and the story he presented here like that.

The only difference is it sounds like, between you and others is that you have a different reaction from the women you approached and you have a daughter. In principle it sounds like you are doing the same exact thing you are condemning others about.
My daughter is 11 and not 18, that's one.

Secondly I said that daygaming is taking a risk, as the OP clearly stated. Dude in the OP didn't necessarily approached minors, the thread just derailed towards that subject. I condome men who specifically are willing to prey on underage women. There is a thread right now saying that society actually wants to up the age of consent so the sentiment is not something only I came up with. You gotta be stupid to not at least UNDERSTAND where it's coming from.

I am giving facts and I am honest with that too. So me, being a man who done it all knows what's he's talking about.

I've fexked hookers, yes, and I dated younger too, unlike most who respond. And I am a father and even though I am end 3p I get women between 20- 50 if I want. All these things are just fantasies for them. By the way the 19 y.o I dated initiated everything, she just couldn't resist me. Dated her for two years and some fwb for a year after that. Also a fantasy for them.

If a man somehow makes the neighborhood unsafe, then people will react. Next thing you know OP gets angry because he feels like " you should be able to talk to then and they should respond politely ". Who is hell is he to demand anything from anyone? He's been arrested recently, and now posts a thread where another dude also got arrested. To me that means the writing is on the wall and you should ADJUST your game, especially if you are an ugly MF( I conclude that because OP is all in his feeling that "Chad" does get the numbers).

If you guys would also be honest we could talk about how to adjust your game, do's and don'ts and how to be more successful. This is all just blackpill rhetoric and circlejerking without offering a solution. I'll encourage every man to approach women and feck young hot women . Just know that there's a risk involved.
 
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My daughter is 11 and not 18, that's one.
Ok, noted.

Gamisch said:
I condome men who specifically are willing to prey on underage women.
It sounded like you were saying the OP went after underage women.

Gamish said:
I am giving fact and I am honest with that too. So me, being a man who done it a knows what's he's talking about.

I've fexked hookers, yes, and I dated younger too, like lost how respond. And I am a father and even though I am end 3p I get women between 20- 50 if I want. All these things are just fantasies for them. By the way the 19 y.o I dated initiated everything, she just couldn't resist me. Dated her for two years and some fwb for a year after that. Also a fantasy for them.
Apart from the hooker thing, you are still getting a different reaction from women then the guy who did the cold-approach. I don't think the OP or the other guy has a problem in admitting they are sub-5s and have more of a problem. Therefore, you have a priviledged position if that's your experience. You are somehow entitled to this and berate other guys who are not successful or have a nasty reaction/backlash and that comes across as a bit hollow.

Gamish said:
If a man somehow makes the neighborhood unsafe, then people will react. Next thing you know OP gets angry because he feels like " you should be able to talk to then and they should respond politely ".
Responding politely means not calling the cops or beating someone up? What does rude mean then, shooting them?

Gamish said:
Who is hell is he to demand anything from anyone? He's been arrested recently, and now posts a thread where another dude also got arrested. To me that means the writing is on the wall and you should ADJUST your game, especially if you are an ugly MF( I conclude that because OP is all in his feeling that "Chad" does get the numbers).
Again, sounds hollow. Saying 'hello' should not result in that outcome.

Gamish said:
If you guys would also be honest we could talk about how to adjust your game, do's and don'ts and how to be more successful. This is all just blackpill rhetoric and circlejerking without offering a solution. I'll encourage every man to approach women and feck young hot women . Just know that there's a risk involved.
It's not the same risk for everyone.
 

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My daughter is 11 and not 18
I understand your worries. I don't have children, but I have a 19-year-old niece and I worry a lot about whom she associates with. Thank God she is a very responsible and good-natured girl.
 

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Ok, noted.



It sounded like you were saying the OP went after underage women.



Apart from the hooker thing, you are still getting a different reaction from women then the guy who did the cold-approach. I don't think the OP or the other guy has a problem in admitting they are sub-5s and have more of a problem. Therefore, you have a priviledged position if that's your experience. You are somehow entitled to this and berate other guys who are not successful or have a nasty reaction/backlash and that comes across as a bit hollow.



Responding politely means not calling the cops or beating someone up? What does rude mean then, shooting them?



Again, sounds hollow. Saying 'hello' should not result in that outcome.



It's not the same risk for everyone.
Not every hello is equal.

Scenario 1. I am standing in sketchy neighborhood in a dark ally at night with my hoodie on. A young woman walks by and I say "hello".

Scenario 2. I am taking the train . Its busy and there is only one seat free, across a young woman. I sit down and say hello.

Now ofcourse I know that daygame is somewhere in the middle and , important, its completely up to the recipient of your hello who she interprets this. You try to sell her something, she can slap the door shut without being polite. Like every other day or night gamer I've been **** blocked, had arguments with security, women , their friends, or even bf's . It's just part of the game.

For a lotta people its mindblowing that day game could get you arrested, not for me though. Day game is closely related to street life, and street life has both many written and unwritten rules and laws to it you must be aware of. A guy that never been out there and decides to start day gaming because that's what his coach told him, might not know this and become victim of his own lack of knowledge and naivety. Hence what happened in both this and the other thread. Two guys who decide to start C approach being mid 30, lacking the necessary skills to do this properly.

I told OP that you gotta be subtle. The moment you get arrested for anything means you pushed it too far. If I get rejected by a woman she won't even be certain if I tried to come up to her or not, that's how subtle I operate. Within 10 seconds I can gauge whether she is interested or not.

Instead of learning and looking for solutions OP went on the usual blackpill rant, derailed his own thread to justify fexkkng minors, got some fellow blackpillers on his side and here we are.

And about all that Chad bs, maybe we as men should simply Chad ourselves up as much as possible? I am not privileged. I had to learn how to close the gap with women. Been rejected at least ten times as much as the notches I have.
 
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Ok, noted.



It sounded like you were saying the OP went after underage women.



Apart from the hooker thing, you are still getting a different reaction from women then the guy who did the cold-approach. I don't think the OP or the other guy has a problem in admitting they are sub-5s and have more of a problem. Therefore, you have a priviledged position if that's your experience. You are somehow entitled to this and berate other guys who are not successful or have a nasty reaction/backlash and that comes across as a bit hollow.



Responding politely means not calling the cops or beating someone up? What does rude mean then, shooting them?



Again, sounds hollow. Saying 'hello' should not result in that outcome.



It's not the same risk for everyone.
I've never been arrested just to be clear.I'd call myself around average looking tbh, but who knows what my real number is. Anything below a 6 is going to run into problems in smaller areas approaching a lot imo. I have women who love the approach and some who get creeped out with the same approach. It depends on the individual woman. It's almost like a different world each woman you approach. That's how I know it's not my bad approach.

Its sad seeing people called predators on here. Just like creep, it's an overused term. They try to shame men for liking younger women by saying you can't handle a real woman. They do the same thing with fat women. You can't handle a woman with curves. Ect. Very obvious. As a man you should try to get the hottest youngest woman 18+ you can get. Women certainly aren't shamed for trying to get the hottest guy they can get. Tinder exists just for this reason.

Anyway, I came from a respite from this man hating society we are living in. Unfortunately, it's been invaded by the same people you see everywhere else. It was nice talking to a few of you, corrector and others, but I'm going to leave this forum now. It's just making me angry on here so no point in that and arguing with random strangers on a tiny internet forum is pointless. Content creators are our only hope to change the culture over time. I'd like to find a Long term girlfriend so I can exit this mess. That's my goal.
 

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I read somewhere that they want to make it illegal in the UK to even look at a woman in a sexual way*. So none of this surprises me.

The lesson to learn is not to hang around for too long in the same place and to be a bit discreet about it. Otherwise the histericals will surely come for you.

*Unless you're a Chad, of course.
it’s not really that, it’s a collection of stalky things. Don’t forget we have a lot of migrants off the boat and some of them are stalky.

A lot of these men are poorly educated, have strict cultural no sex without marriage societies and all they think and know of the west is what they’ve seen online and film, and p0rn. They know western girls have sex before marriage but I don’t think they quite Understand how the courting rules work and think it’s a free for all, so just outright proposition or stalk girls. That’s what I think this legislation is getting at. There’s been an undercurrent of reporting on girls gettjnf stared down, followed and pestered on their way back from school in some cases.

I know some of you are Americans and you have similar issues at your border in terms of rapid migration and integration. Although I think a lot of Mexicans are still closed to your culture than the North Africans and Middle Eastern turning up here.

just want to say there are obviously a majority of migrants who just want to get on and run businesses, but there is a substantial minority who do this, and it stems from poor education, and cultural issues.

the thing I dislike about this legislation is it’s probably mainly going to be used bu activists and students to accost some poor bloke on a train looking at a pretty girl, and ruin his life for social media points.
 

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The PUA community needs to warn about the western feminism virus and end cold approaching. We need to evolve to the times and take different approaches.

Modern western women are too brainwashed by companies that have billions of dollars and agendas. The law is on their side. We cannot expect women to come to their senses, they don't reason like men do. If it gives them feels, they do it.

One thing about RedPill and PUA that ticks me off is cold approaching and scripted strategies. That crap has got to go.
IE "Hi, um, I just want to say your really cute and ummm, I saw you over there. Can I get your number? Um" etc. Has cold approaching actually ever worked? Cold Approaching worked for me during high school in the cafeteria, not as a 30 year old man approaching random women on the street.

King Turbo's Modern Approaches:
A. Join a hobby group
- Don't care if it's knitting, wine and dine, book club, 4k run event (Not the gym). Find women and share a common ground.

B. Talk to woman at work; befriend them, even if they are married or engaged. Then make friends with their friends. Guaranteed they got a few single girls in their orbit, her husband might too.

C. Meet a woman through a family member or current friend: Throw a house party. Go to a party. Ask your sister or brother to set you up with a chick. When they set you up, it's as in invite to an event like bowling or something. "Hey chelsea, we are going bowling saturday night, some other people are coming, join us" Boom, she's in.

D. Go to church: I'm sure there is a church someone with some singles groups or fellowship groups for you to become involved in.

E. Online dating/Match making: Invest in your dating life, pay for it. Do not do the free crap. It's all scammers. Find women who are actively looking as well.

I just gave you five strategies. Now stop cold approaching random chicks, and make things happen.
 

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A. Hobby groups are worse qualitatively and quantitatively than bars in my experience.

B. Good luck if you work in tech, defense, construction, or some other heavily male industry. Nobody fixes anyone up anymore anyway, and trying to get with female colleagues directly is of course much more reputationally precarious than cold approach.

C. Not applicable to urban transplants

D. Young women have deserted the Church in droves. Wokeism is the new church

E. Still my mainstay. It gets worse every year
 

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I'd like to find a Long term girlfriend so I can exit this mess. That's my goal.
Yeah man, and cold approaching on the street is the best way to go about it. Just like pan handling is the best way to become a millionaire/high earner. Or maybe they are very likely to ruin your reputation in your local community? :rolleyes:
 

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The PUA community needs to warn about the western feminism virus and end cold approaching. We need to evolve to the times and take different approaches.

Modern western women are too brainwashed by companies that have billions of dollars and agendas. The law is on their side. We cannot expect women to come to their senses, they don't reason like men do. If it gives them feels, they do it.

One thing about RedPill and PUA that ticks me off is cold approaching and scripted strategies. That crap has got to go.
IE "Hi, um, I just want to say your really cute and ummm, I saw you over there. Can I get your number? Um" etc. Has cold approaching actually ever worked? Cold Approaching worked for me during high school in the cafeteria, not as a 30 year old man approaching random women on the street.

King Turbo's Modern Approaches:
A. Join a hobby group
- Don't care if it's knitting, wine and dine, book club, 4k run event (Not the gym). Find women and share a common ground.

B. Talk to woman at work; befriend them, even if they are married or engaged. Then make friends with their friends. Guaranteed they got a few single girls in their orbit, her husband might too.

C. Meet a woman through a family member or current friend: Throw a house party. Go to a party. Ask your sister or brother to set you up with a chick. When they set you up, it's as in invite to an event like bowling or something. "Hey chelsea, we are going bowling saturday night, some other people are coming, join us" Boom, she's in.

D. Go to church: I'm sure there is a church someone with some singles groups or fellowship groups for you to become involved in.

E. Online dating/Match making: Invest in your dating life, pay for it. Do not do the free crap. It's all scammers. Find women who are actively looking as well.

I just gave you five strategies. Now stop cold approaching random chicks, and make things happen.
I appreciate the sentiment but that would never work for me. I don't sh!t where I eat.
 

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I know some of you are Americans and you have similar issues at your border in terms of rapid migration and integration. Although I think a lot of Mexicans are still closed to your culture than the North Africans and Middle Eastern turning up here.
Apparently if you are from Cuba they will give you a green card on the spot. But walls will be built trying to keep the Mexicans out. My dad always found this funny, may he RIP.
 
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