Even if a man doesn't do dinner dates in restaurants, many drinks-only dates in bars/lounges can get nearly as pricy as some dinner dates.The reason that the "no dinner before sex" rule has come about is multi-fold (which I know you already know but I am going to say here anyway):
1. Don't waste a lot of money on a girl before you know her intentions. As we are very aware here at SS, there are women out there who will go out with suckers on 1st dates just for free food. This eliminates those women or at least keeps them from putting a dent in your wallet. All relationships are transactional. She needs to give you something in return for a $70.00+ meal. And no, her attention doesn't count despite what some self-centered women believe.
I agree with this.2. Sitting down across from one another during dinner lends itself to being awkward if you've never met or met only once before. You barely know this person. It also eliminates a lot of possibilities for kino which is a huge part of building up sexual tension in early stage dating.
Take the girl to a bar and sit next to her at the bar. Use kino and buy her a drink. You know right away if you are wasting your time or not once you have done this a few times.
How would you have declined without letting her know?That’s freaking ridiculous….$3 for a slice of cheese?? Inflation is out of control man. I wouldn’t have paid it either but I wouldn’t have let her know.
Drink dates are more expensive than dinner dates on average unless you limit yourself to one or two drinks or are drinking dirt cheap beers.Even if a man doesn't do dinner dates in restaurants, many drinks-only dates in bars/lounges can get nearly as pricy as some dinner dates.
I think it is still a good idea to do drinks dates as a default, but it's not a perfect solution.
The best way to reduce bad dates is go on fewer low quality dates. Swipe apps are notorious for producing low quality, "one date, no sex, no second date" type interactions. Only arranging dates in-person will reduce the number of dates a man will have. The hope is that quality of dates also increases on the fewer dates.
I agree with this.
I never take women to restaurants in first dates that I don’t know. For instance, when I was online dating I took them to this Mexican restaurant near me that was really good but cheap af. I could get out if there for under $30 for both of us lolHow would you have declined without letting her know?
A little sarcasm here :TikToker initially called out her date for being stingy because he didn't want to pay $3 extra to get cheese on his burger, and she argued that it was enough grounds for her to walk out on him.
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A Woman Walked Out On A Hinge Date For His Dinner Order & TikTokers Love How He Fired Back
All over a $3 slice of cheese!www.narcity.com
“I just paid the bill and walked out of the restaurant, and I texted him, ‘The check is taken care of. You should have gotten the cheese,' and I blocked him.”
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My thoughts: A man can’t ”ask how much something extra is” on a first date. Even if he has been married for 5 years and has a child, it’s not a good look. If a man is buying a car with a girl, he can ask. If a man is buying cell phone features with a girl. he can ask, if a man is buying a condo with a girl, he can ask. He can’t ask if “cheese is extra” when going out to dinner.
Thoughts?
A great woman comes over your place and brings you food lolWomen in 2023 are a mess. They're broken.
A good woman says "yes, $3 for cheese is a lot. I would like to cook you a cheeseburger one day... if you want me to?"