"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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A way of creating mystery

jtb123

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Would making the date a mystery be a good idea? (as like the 3rd date). Giving her short clues every day until the date (Given that the date has been arrange for a day 2 weeks away). Giving her a prize if she gets it such as 'letting her kiss you'?

What do you guys think?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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KinkyMan

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i think having a date arranged 2 weeks in advance is too long, also i think that you should be upfront and honest about where the date is

however you could take her to coffee or something and then say you are going to go to blah blah which she didnt know about beforehand
 

dirtysouth

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I think making it a mystery shows her you're trying too hard. I mean if you're just trying to tag, the better way might be not telling her what you have planned, but the clues thing is a little much.
 

jtb123

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Theres a good reason why its 2 weeks away as the end of school exams are on.

So do you think I should just tell her where were goin?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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locarius

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Are you the date? Or is wherever you are going the date?

Reframe that ****. It doesn't matter where you go.
 

dirtysouth

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Giving her short clues every day until the date (Given that the date has been arrange for a day 2 weeks away)
Unless you're engaged to this chick, or want to be, this is so AFC.
 

Qmanchoo

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Wrong.

Planning something to do on a certain date with a girl that is into you, and not telling her what it is, will have her thinking about it all the time trying to figure it out. She'll think "omg is it something I hate!" or "Omg what if it's something I love!" and go back and fourth on it until she thinks she has it figured out. She’ll also be thinking about everything you guys did together in the last month for clues as to what it might be.

Emphasis on she is already into you

It's all about how you execute it.

You don't sit there and say Lets go out on the 2nd, but oooo i'm noooot gonna ttelll you where, it's a guuuunnnnna be a surprIIIIIIse.

and be all sappy and stupid.

You say "Don't make any plans for this weekend"
She'll ask why
and you say "[insert your own natural evasive answer here]"

I've done it, works well.

they even might think is all cornball and stupid at first! And even say so, but the reaction AFTER the fact is them thinking about it all the time.

If you think something is AFC, or you think something will not work, and you have no personal first had experience trying it or an experience to reference where it failed…then your opinion is worthless. Further, anyone with any amount of experience knows that all women are different to a certain degree and some will respond very well to something like this where some wont. What people who want to be productive should be doing is posted about how something like that has or has not worked for them in practice and why.

*shakes head*
 
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