"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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A Very AFC New Year

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So last night I was drunk and alone and pulled a very beta move.

Texted the ex. She played with me a little.

Me: Got plans tonight?

Her: Why do u ask?

Me: For an answer, why else

Her: Why, do you?

Me: I did, they fell through, working on a plan b

Her: Oh so you consider me as a backup plan---how sweet

Me: fairplay, you wouldn't have liked plan A anyway

Her: haha, and what was that?

Me: bungee jumping for Jesus

And then no response after that. In the moment, it seemed like I was doing well but this morning I just feel pathetic.

I guess this is symbolic of just how much I need to move on and let go. With the New Year here I'm feeling like a fresh start is in order, but the emptiness I feel is all-consuming and my ex still haunts my thoughts 24/7. I really wouldn't wish this on anyone.

Going to devote this year to ridding her from my system and focusing on self-improvement. Quit smoking, new job, daily workouts, and eradication of all AFC tendencies.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Pimp-sicle

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While I totally agree with you about moving on and keeping X's just that; I think you were doing well, until your last response. That sounds a bit morbid bro. Think if you would've kept escalating you could have had her come by or meet up.

But in either case, its probably for the best.

Happy NY and keep moving forward!




PIMP
 

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Yeah, I was trying to come off as ****y and outcome independent. I failed.
 

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always have your emotions under control BEFORE you start texting.
 

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LMAO!!! I loved your last response!

But yeah, texting the ex wasn't a great idea. Oh well, just move on from it. Wipe her number off your phone so you won't do it again.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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How about this:

Texting is inherently subject to her misinterpreting you.

Drunk texting is a guaranteed fail.
 

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This is why you don't carry on conversations over text.

Me: Got plans tonight? <--asking for attention, bad. Should have opened with something quirky or a non-sequitor to break the ice.

Her: Why do u ask? <--she's not answering, treat this as a rapport break on her part. As a rule, when a woman gives you a rapport break, you give them one right back.

Me: For an answer, why else <--fair response as you're not playing into her frame by answering it

Her: Why, do you? <--she still hasn't answered your question if she has plans

Me: I did, they fell through, working on a plan b <--fail fail fail fail fail!

Her: Oh so you consider me as a backup plan---how sweet

Me: fairplay, you wouldn't have liked plan A anyway <--this was your opportunity to neg, toss out something ****y/funny, or any number of ways to bust on her
 

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Drinking and texting, go together like lamb and tuna fish!
First mistake: alcohol and communications
Second Mistake: Contacting Ex
Third Mistake: Hasn't happened yet. If you repeat First and second mistake, you are up to mistake 3.
STOP NOW MY GOOD SIR!

KC
 

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Nutz said:
This is why you don't carry on conversations over text.

Me: Got plans tonight? <--asking for attention, bad. Should have opened with something quirky or a non-sequitor to break the ice.

Her: Why do u ask? <--she's not answering, treat this as a rapport break on her part. As a rule, when a woman gives you a rapport break, you give them one right back.

Me: For an answer, why else <--fair response as you're not playing into her frame by answering it

Her: Why, do you? <--she still hasn't answered your question if she has plans

Me: I did, they fell through, working on a plan b <--fail fail fail fail fail!

Her: Oh so you consider me as a backup plan---how sweet

Me: fairplay, you wouldn't have liked plan A anyway <--this was your opportunity to neg, toss out something ****y/funny, or any number of ways to bust on her
I'm curious then, how would you have responded to her "Why, do you?" response. I figured by not being specific I could retain an air of mystery but I guess it was a massive fail.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Cheeks said:
I'm curious then, how would you have responded to her "Why, do you?" response. I figured by not being specific I could retain an air of mystery but I guess it was a massive fail.
Treat it as a sh!t test, which is a form of a rapport break. Whenever a woman gives you a rapport break, you give one back. The most common response to a sh!t test is:

  • Agree & Amplify (to absurdity)
  • Ignore it
  • Change the subject

My suggestion is to ignore her question by changing the subject.
 

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Nutz said:
This is why you don't carry on conversations over text.
QFT.


"I do not mind simple texting but trying to hold an intelligent conversation is hard over text messages. Thats what my neices and nephews do all day long and thats fine for them. But, I dont expect text messages from grown adults. Quick messages are good."​


Sauce.
 
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