"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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A **** test that I screwed up

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This girl is a close friend, and I'm trying to tap her, and here's the **** test I got in a nightclub when partying with her - "you can touch my boobs but you can't touch my face".

Somehow I got completely turned off by it and walked off.

But I regret it now, I should've played along!

Thoughts DJ's?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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oldmanofthesea

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If it’s a close friend you need to whip her up into sexual frustration first. You do that by rejecting her advances playfully. When she said that, you could have said, “You have boobs? I didn’t even notice, sis!” You treat her like she is asexual. This is not the approach you follow with a girl you just met and are trying to be romantic with but it can work well for a friend you are trying to escalate with. Just know that 99% of the time, you will never hook up with a girl you are close friends with unless there has been strong sexual tension between BOTH of you from the beginning but something external prevented both of you from doing anything about it (like one of you was in a relationship or you work together etc). Girls don’t generally go from platonic friends to lovers. It can happen but it’s among the rarest scenario out there. Likely she was just drunk and looking for attention and validation and would not have let you escalate.
 

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Never heard of a female setting pre escalation ground rules in a club unless you were telegraphing intent too early, but I would have viewed it as a green light to isolate and escalate. She may have only been thinking about her makeup.
It was a sexual comment from her though and you should have flipped it on her by saying something like, Never knew you were so focused on sex, but I can take care of that little problem for you …
 

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I'm not gay, I've fallen in love with her unfortunately and if there's anyone I'd want to marry and have babies with - it's her
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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GioWolf

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I agree she was probably just worried about her makeup. She set a boundary while giving you the go ahead.
 

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I'm not gay, I've fallen in love with her unfortunately and if there's anyone I'd want to marry and have babies with - it's her
You could have answered her: "Let's go to my house and let me touch ur boobs there!"

Also, this is kind weird... A women who said that in a party. Point 1: Did you ever think about yourself touching her boobs on a public place? What about her, haven't you ever questioned why a woman allow that kind of publicly behavior?

Trying to help you understand the whole situation. If you see a woman in a party having their boobs touched by a guy... what would you think about? What is she trying to prove or validate allowing that?

Another question: Why you felt in love with her? Can you describe me the qualities you saw in her? What behaviors make her a good potential mother for your sons?

If you can't answer that with clarity, you probably felt in love/attached with your sexual desire for her. Whenever you fck her enough... you will get tired and the dream is over.
 

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This girl is a close friend, and I'm trying to tap her, and here's the **** test I got in a nightclub when partying with her - "you can touch my boobs but you can't touch my face".

Somehow I got completely turned off by it and walked off.

But I regret it now, I should've played along!

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Her: "You can touch my boobs but you can't touch my face"
Me: "I don't want to...(pause) touch your boobs.
And then you grab her by the chin and kiss the sh1t out of her. One thing will lead to another and you end up somehow comming all over her face. While not touching her boobs even once. Cuz it would be poetic.
But that's just me.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I made friends with a girl like that one time and will never do it again. Keep women on the other end of the spectrum. Just a cause for disaster. IMO
 
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