"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
A recent situation i need help with before its too late
- Thread starter jwei44
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
You are giving off the dreaded "Creeper" vibe. You don't mean to but adolescent girls spread the news like wildfire and it will really hurt your game in highschool, you NEED to leave her be. That is...if you plan on getting your d!ck wet in your highschool years.
The worst thing you can do right now is talk to her at all, if she texts you...ignore her, if she calls....ignore it...., if she says hi to you @ school in person go ahead and wave...but keep your chin up and roll on by. This will eliminate your creep status from her mind. You really need to adhere to this advice or your setting yourself up for failure over a girl that is not worth your time.
Gotta look at things outside of the box. Can you imagine what she is saying to her friends? About the guy that is always looking at her from across the way, or passing by the lunch table and feebly muttering "hi/hello". Those girls then tell other girls and its a huge fvckfest for your reputation....which is important at your age.
Find a new chick for us to help you with, that you have a pretty fresh start with. Then make a topic, and we will coach you from the earliest of stages.
Good luck, and hope you get something new for us to give you a hand with.^^:wave:pvf94 said:yea bro, the absolute best thing you can do right now....is to let this one go.
You are giving off the dreaded "Creeper" vibe. You don't mean to but adolescent girls spread the news like wildfire and it will really hurt your game in highschool, you NEED to leave her be. That is...if you plan on getting your d!ck wet in your highschool years.
The worst thing you can do right now is talk to her at all, if she texts you...ignore her, if she calls....ignore it...., if she says hi to you @ school in person go ahead and wave...but keep your chin up and roll on by. This will eliminate your creep status from her mind. You really need to adhere to this advice or your setting yourself up for failure over a girl that is not worth your time.
Gotta look at things outside of the box. Can you imagine what she is saying to her friends? About the guy that is always looking at her from across the way, or passing by the lunch table and feebly muttering "hi/hello". Those girls then tell other girls and its a huge fvckfest for your reputation....which is important at your age.
Find a new chick for us to help you with, that you have a pretty fresh start with. Then make a topic, and we will coach you from the earliest of stages.
jwei44 said:
Didn't I tell you not to contact her?
If you had simply acted cordial, the topic never should have swayed to this. Oh and props to guy above who posted about the "creeper" vibe, I had a bit of trouble explaining that.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
i uploaded the pictures cause i was on my iTouch when she talked to me first. but anyway.. just tell me what i should say should she come back as she said in the last IM she sent. Ill cut her out from now on but leave contacts open. I can act cordial like you said, but im moving on just to let you know
ps - dont im her please. she'll think its me and thats going to be bad for my rep or whateverr
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
It says I do not have the password?jwei44 said:
I'm editing this because I reached my 10 post limit. Anyways, All I can say is wow..
Not only is she b1tchy, but your coming off as a major creep.
Were you actually iming her from random sn's? I'd like to think you werent, but I've seen alot of friends go down an "internet stalking" road.
Even if you werent, the fact that she associated you with such "stalkerish" tendencies tells alot about what she thinks of you. Hopefully you can understand that. Women associate things with emotion, and sorry buddy but you and "weird, creep, sketch, stalker, loser" are soul mates in her mind.
So the real way you two go in touch was through facebook status? You indirectly said that she used you?
*Sigh*
She even knew about your winter ball plans? Couldnt keep that to yourself?
You also used terms such as "we" and "us", and parting ways when she had no romantic feelings for you. Not only did this destroy whatever hope you had of saving face with her and her friends. Your school reputation could easily be destroyed when she shows her peers what you have been sending so that they can have a good laugh at you. I feel for you man.
I thought there was maybe something to salvage, but she has literally cut you off. There is no tomorrow, or better days.
Cut all contact, do not look at her, and never mention her name. DO NOT SPEAK ABOUT THIS WITH YOUR FRIENDS EITHER. (It will only have more people spreading misinterpreted stories about you)
If anyone asks you about it, just brush it of. Change the subject, or say "what are you talking about?"
Cleanse yourself of this mistake and hope for the best
Be glad your done with her because she is not a quality woman. Try to game other woman as soon as possible.
sageproduct
Banned
1. she's a cold, stuck-up b1tch
2. disgustingly, you have one-itis for her...NO girl should matter so much that you keep wondering what to do if she talks to you or something
3. STOP. IMING/TEXTING. SO. MUCH. it took me years of my young life to learn this, but it doesn't do anything unless you're setting up plans or something or throwing a couple quick jokes. it's hurt you tremendously
4. if you've already read the bible, re-read it
5. stop apologizing and having to explain yourself to her all the time
6. it's ridiculous that you were saying things like "so we go our separate ways" and stuff. from what you said, it looks like you hardly even talked to her. she was right about that much, constant texting and IMing IS annoying and most people will just start ignoring you instead of telling you to stop.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
sageproduct
Banned
Sage, I spelled this exact advice out to him about two or three times. He doesn't seem to be getting it. I broke the whole thing down for him on the previous page and he comes with the same sh1t. Dont bother anymore.sageproduct said:
You will get over it soon enough. Lol
Dude, look your apologizing again. One rule of thumb is only say sorry when you've truly done something wrong. I live by that advice, though others may disagree.jwei44 said:
Instead of saying sorry, just say you feel bad about it. Just like the word I love you has lost alot of meaning in today's society because it is simply overused.
Good luck with the future girls. Post back when you find a date. (Use your friend only has a last option.)
Btw, there are very few guys who actually "get it", and I can't say I'm one of then yet so keep working hard!
If you really want advice, look up "Igetit!" or "Solomon", or eaglez (I can't remember the numbers) who post's alot in the HS forum. They know their stuff.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.