"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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A recent situation i need help with before its too late

Ice882

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jesus you were annoying as fvck to read in that convo.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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yea bro, the absolute best thing you can do right now....is to let this one go.

You are giving off the dreaded "Creeper" vibe. You don't mean to but adolescent girls spread the news like wildfire and it will really hurt your game in highschool, you NEED to leave her be. That is...if you plan on getting your d!ck wet in your highschool years.

The worst thing you can do right now is talk to her at all, if she texts you...ignore her, if she calls....ignore it...., if she says hi to you @ school in person go ahead and wave...but keep your chin up and roll on by. This will eliminate your creep status from her mind. You really need to adhere to this advice or your setting yourself up for failure over a girl that is not worth your time.

Gotta look at things outside of the box. Can you imagine what she is saying to her friends? About the guy that is always looking at her from across the way, or passing by the lunch table and feebly muttering "hi/hello". Those girls then tell other girls and its a huge fvckfest for your reputation....which is important at your age.


Find a new chick for us to help you with, that you have a pretty fresh start with. Then make a topic, and we will coach you from the earliest of stages.

:) Good luck, and hope you get something new for us to give you a hand with.
 

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It's over guys. She told me off last night. Said I tried talking to her too much. I'll tell you what she said when I come back from school
 

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pvf94 said:
yea bro, the absolute best thing you can do right now....is to let this one go.

You are giving off the dreaded "Creeper" vibe. You don't mean to but adolescent girls spread the news like wildfire and it will really hurt your game in highschool, you NEED to leave her be. That is...if you plan on getting your d!ck wet in your highschool years.

The worst thing you can do right now is talk to her at all, if she texts you...ignore her, if she calls....ignore it...., if she says hi to you @ school in person go ahead and wave...but keep your chin up and roll on by. This will eliminate your creep status from her mind. You really need to adhere to this advice or your setting yourself up for failure over a girl that is not worth your time.

Gotta look at things outside of the box. Can you imagine what she is saying to her friends? About the guy that is always looking at her from across the way, or passing by the lunch table and feebly muttering "hi/hello". Those girls then tell other girls and its a huge fvckfest for your reputation....which is important at your age.


Find a new chick for us to help you with, that you have a pretty fresh start with. Then make a topic, and we will coach you from the earliest of stages.

:) Good luck, and hope you get something new for us to give you a hand with.
^^:wave:
 

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It's over guys. She told me off last night. Said I tried talking to her too much. I'll tell you what she said when I come back from school

Didn't I tell you not to contact her?

If you had simply acted cordial, the topic never should have swayed to this. Oh and props to guy above who posted about the "creeper" vibe, I had a bit of trouble explaining that.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Recon said:
Didn't I tell you not to contact her?

If you had simply acted cordial, the topic never should have swayed to this. Oh and props to guy above who posted about the "creeper" vibe, I had a bit of trouble explaining that.
Thank you :) I need to get back on here and start helping some more. Haha, sorry to hear of your anticipated outcome threadstarter.
 

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Didn't I tell you not to contact her?

If you had simply acted cordial, the topic never should have swayed to this. Oh and props to guy above who posted about the "creeper" vibe, I had a bit of trouble explaining that.
she talked to me firstt.do you guys wanna hear what she said or is it okay? lol. ive been chill about it all day.
 

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she talked to me firstt.do you guys wanna hear what she said or is it okay? lol. ive been chill about it all day.

I'm glad to see your taking it well. Like I said before update as much as you'd like
 

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okay

i uploaded the pictures cause i was on my iTouch when she talked to me first. but anyway.. just tell me what i should say should she come back as she said in the last IM she sent. Ill cut her out from now on but leave contacts open. I can act cordial like you said, but im moving on just to let you know

ps - dont im her please. she'll think its me and thats going to be bad for my rep or whateverr
 

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okay

i uploaded the pictures cause i was on my iTouch when she talked to me first. but anyway.. just tell me what i should say should she come back as she said in the last IM she sent. Ill cut her out from now on but leave contacts open. I can act cordial like you said, but im moving on just to let you know

ps - dont im her please. she'll think its me and thats going to be bad for my rep or whateverr
Excuse me? I can't see any of these pictures, it'd be easier just to put the text into your post
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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It says I do not have the password?

I'm editing this because I reached my 10 post limit. Anyways, All I can say is wow..

Not only is she b1tchy, but your coming off as a major creep.

Were you actually iming her from random sn's? I'd like to think you werent, but I've seen alot of friends go down an "internet stalking" road.

Even if you werent, the fact that she associated you with such "stalkerish" tendencies tells alot about what she thinks of you. Hopefully you can understand that. Women associate things with emotion, and sorry buddy but you and "weird, creep, sketch, stalker, loser" are soul mates in her mind.

So the real way you two go in touch was through facebook status? You indirectly said that she used you?

*Sigh*

She even knew about your winter ball plans? Couldnt keep that to yourself?


You also used terms such as "we" and "us", and parting ways when she had no romantic feelings for you. Not only did this destroy whatever hope you had of saving face with her and her friends. Your school reputation could easily be destroyed when she shows her peers what you have been sending so that they can have a good laugh at you. I feel for you man.

I thought there was maybe something to salvage, but she has literally cut you off. There is no tomorrow, or better days.

Cut all contact, do not look at her, and never mention her name. DO NOT SPEAK ABOUT THIS WITH YOUR FRIENDS EITHER. (It will only have more people spreading misinterpreted stories about you)

If anyone asks you about it, just brush it of. Change the subject, or say "what are you talking about?"

Cleanse yourself of this mistake and hope for the best

Be glad your done with her because she is not a quality woman. Try to game other woman as soon as possible.
 
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Dude...
1. she's a cold, stuck-up b1tch
2. disgustingly, you have one-itis for her...NO girl should matter so much that you keep wondering what to do if she talks to you or something
3. STOP. IMING/TEXTING. SO. MUCH. it took me years of my young life to learn this, but it doesn't do anything unless you're setting up plans or something or throwing a couple quick jokes. it's hurt you tremendously
4. if you've already read the bible, re-read it
5. stop apologizing and having to explain yourself to her all the time
6. it's ridiculous that you were saying things like "so we go our separate ways" and stuff. from what you said, it looks like you hardly even talked to her. she was right about that much, constant texting and IMing IS annoying and most people will just start ignoring you instead of telling you to stop.
 

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yeah guys ive learned from this. my friends say if she contacts me, be the biggest jerk i can.

and no iwas not random sning
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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DON'T be a jerk. That's not what No Contact is about. You'll just make it seem to her and EVERYONE that you were bitter about liking her and her not liking you back. Just be polite and respond to her if she tries to talk to you but DON'T start conversations with her or text her or anything like that.
 

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DON'T be a jerk. That's not what No Contact is about. You'll just make it seem to her and EVERYONE that you were bitter about liking her and her not liking you back. Just be polite and respond to her if she tries to talk to you but DON'T start conversations with her or text her or anything like that.
Sage, I spelled this exact advice out to him about two or three times. He doesn't seem to be getting it. I broke the whole thing down for him on the previous page and he comes with the same sh1t. Dont bother anymore.
 

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poor jwei :/ just go back and re-read the parts that say "leave her alone, don't talk to her anymore, NO contact, leave it be, let it die, let it blow up, forget her, move on, oneitis is bad for you, yadda yadda yadda"

You will get over it soon enough. Lol
 

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sorry guys. im slow. but i get it now tahnks
Dude, look your apologizing again. One rule of thumb is only say sorry when you've truly done something wrong. I live by that advice, though others may disagree.

Instead of saying sorry, just say you feel bad about it. Just like the word I love you has lost alot of meaning in today's society because it is simply overused.

Good luck with the future girls. Post back when you find a date. (Use your friend only has a last option.)

Btw, there are very few guys who actually "get it", and I can't say I'm one of then yet so keep working hard!


If you really want advice, look up "Igetit!" or "Solomon", or eaglez (I can't remember the numbers) who post's alot in the HS forum. They know their stuff.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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