"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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yay! A big negative sh!t fest. I read the first post and decided not to participate.

I had a great cinco de mayo with several number closes and a few drunken kisses.

Bought some new gear today. Gonna look fresh at the lake this weekend.

I'm in good spirits today enjoying life.

I have a decent job and good friends.

My parents love me as well as my daughter.

I'm down 4 lbs! Going to the gym today after work.

Thought I'd post somethings I'm thankful for and happy about instead!
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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guru1000 said:
Always remember,

Being angry gives power to the event.

I don't like to give anyone or anything my power.

You are better to let is slide off your shoulder.
Romangod said:
I'm mad because there's too many mad people.
You can go too far with this philosophy. I have the experience. If you bottle it up or let it go too much, you risk either becoming a pu'ssy or blowing up on things that don't deserve it -- generally people weaker than you. Don't confuse being nice and rational with being a coward. Honour demands you get angry at times -- and even giving people the recognition of anger is ok at times. You can honour an opponent, even if you can never give in.

I'd say it depends on how important the matter really is. If all they want is to get a rise put of you, they're obviouslky not deserving of being treated seriously.
 

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DJVladdy said:
Iqqi, how old are you? I thought maybe ur 30-something but I guess ur mad young since you use facebook
Lol I have several friends on facebook who are 30-ish... well done on jumping to baseless conclusions ô.o
 

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  • I'm mad the never-ending battle with dirt on my steering wheel.
  • I'm mad at my gastrointestinal tract for bowel irregularities.
  • I'm mad I cannot find the terminal velocity of a feather.
  • I'm mad at a recent string of encounters with conspiracy theorists. One of these days, I'm going to write an essay.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I'm mad that you guys are wasting time qriting down what makes you mad when you can turn this into something postive by gettin up off your tales and doing something about it!!!!!

I'm mad because I have to piss every 15-20mins

damn water lol

:up:
 

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Deep Dish said:
  • I'm mad I cannot find the terminal velocity of a feather.
I tried to think of a smart answer to that and now I'm mad too.

  • I'm mad at a recent string of encounters with conspiracy theorists. One of these days, I'm going to write an essay.
THE ESSAY WILL BRING ABOUT THE APOCALYPSE! THE ILLUMINATI HAVE US ALL!
 

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I'm mad because I live in the middle of nowhere.

I'll be moving soon though so I'm actually happy.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Gubby said:
You can go too far with this philosophy. I have the experience. If you bottle it up or let it go too much, you risk either becoming a pu'ssy or blowing up on things that don't deserve it -- generally people weaker than you. Don't confuse being nice and rational with being a coward. Honour demands you get angry at times -- and even giving people the recognition of anger is ok at times. You can honour an opponent, even if you can never give in.
You ADDRESS it, then let it go.

Never harbor resentment. No one or event deserves that much of you.

Honor is built on ACTION, not emotion.
 

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Gubby said:
I tried to think of a smart answer to that and now I'm mad too.
Drat! :cry:
THE ESSAY WILL BRING ABOUT THE APOCALYPSE! THE ILLUMINATI HAVE US ALL!
Oh noes! :nervous:

;)
 

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Gubby said:
And what is action built on?
Application of a decision.

Just because you THINK it or FEEL it, does not mean you will ACT on it.

A decision may be motivated by emotion. But it certainly does not guarantee application of it.

Never act on emotion. Leave that to a woman. Your best decisions are made with a clear, concise, unbiased and abundant mind frame.

Then you act.
 

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Man, if you disregard emotion so totally... what are you living for? Your masculine attitude can help you go places... but only something so feminine as the heart can decide for you where exactly is worth going.

Heart and mind must work together in harmony or they are both useless.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The difference is feeling your anger, accepting it and addressing it vs reacting and/or harboring your anger.

You choose.
 

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guru1000 said:
The difference is feeling your anger, accepting it and addressing it vs reacting and/or harboring your anger.

You choose.
I'm not sure we're even in disagreement here :confused:
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
Anger is a gift.


Use it wisely.
I think its dangerous not to elaborate on this.

It's only a gift if you recognize it as a signal that something is amiss that most likely involves some corrective action on your part. Did you misperceive someone's actions? Did you not communicate something clearly to someone else which could have led to someone inadvertently violating your personal standards with you? Did you fail at your own personal standards, perhaps?

My point is, in and of itself, it's actually a bad thing if you don't immediately do something about it. Certainly acting with anger leads to irrational behaviors.
 

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azanon said:
My point is, in and of itself, it's actually a bad thing if you don't immediately do something about it. Certainly acting with anger leads to irrational behaviors.
Existence is irrational.

Pure rationality taken to its logical conclusion is nihilism.

Just throwing out ideas here.:D
 

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Gubby said:
Existence is irrational.

Pure rationality taken to its logical conclusion is nihilism.

Just throwing out ideas here.:D
I would say your base assumption is wrong. Existence is very rational. I have a Masters in "rational". If the world wasn't predictable, repeatable, testable, explainable (Darwinian), etc. we'd have to close up our modern-day science classrooms. Psychology (RT's field) also relies a lot on studying "norms" and comparing "outliers" (those who act "abnormally") to the general rule.

The exception is the irrational, and if there should be any world religion, it should be nihilism. I'm more a fan of "humanism" though, since it has a positive spin to it.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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