"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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A new idea...

So pimp its scary

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Let's just say you start talking to this girl and you go for the #close. She says yes...

A problem that alot of people have is when to make that first phone call. I've had this problem myself for a good long time.

So, I got this girls phone number in my hand, I've made sure that it's her real number, I've made sure that she actually answers the phone.

Then I tell her "well, my friends always talk about this... do you prefer that i call you tomorrow and seem like a stalker, or do you prefer that I wait a few days and seem uninterested?"
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I think this is a crap idea.

If you're sarcastic, you might be able to pull it off, but in general, I'd say no.
 

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How about just asking "whats the best time to reach you?"

That way you also are able to avoid calling if she at work and such.
 

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Or, just to be a punk you can ask her when it's best to reach her, call her when you know she can't answer, and tease her about being deaf and not hearing her phone.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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you can give it a try, if you get a good resposnse at least like 8 times out of 10 then its good....but i highly doubt it would be something good to say? I think that by asking her that youre basically asking her how to run your own game...
 

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ok, I can tell that you guys are taking this at face value.

At the same time, you are communicating that you know how the game works. The answers that you get aren't going to be "I want you to seem like a stalker" or "I want you to seem uninterested" but something simpler, like 'call me whenever you like, but I work...' or something to that effect.

This isn't meant to be some breakthrough, but it does give you a little bit more insight into the woman you are macking...

This is no different than the line when the girl hesitates to give her number : 'Don't worry, I'll only call you 5 times a day and more on weekends.'
 
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