"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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A new chapter..

Citre

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Seven months ago I hooked up with my friend's (let's call him Dave) ex-gf (but they were still seeing each other and they still are). Dave stopped talking to me but her and I started getting really close. A few months ago Dave started talking to me again and through the entire 7 months that I've been seeing her, she's been seeing Dave as well (everyone was fully aware of it). Well, him and I got sick of her doing this to us (because we both really like her) and we decided that it wasn't right (there was a bunch of other problems too, but they're unimportant) what she was doing to us so we both planned to drop her from our lives at the same time.

Well, plans didn't work out. Now him and her are back together and it's really hard on me. We both still like each other but I really don't want to backstab Dave again, even though it's so tantalizing. I'm pretty sure I could convince her to start seeing me secretly but I'm not sure if that's the best idea. I like her so much and it's hard being just friends but I HAVE to be something. I can't just not talk to her. She's my closest and best friend now.

I don't know what to do. Do I try and carry on a secret relationship with her (like how we had when we first hooked up) or do I deal with us being just friends and hope to eventually get over her? The problem with getting over her is all my friends say it's hard when you still talk to the girl, but as I said earlier, I can't just stop talking to her. I've tried. It's even harder because of all the jealousy I have to put up with because they're together now.

Thanks, guys.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Forget it. It's stupid to be anything but open and honest. In the end, you'd only end up losing both of them as friends, permanently.
 

Citre

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I suppose you're right. I'll just have to take the hard, yet more rewarding, way out.
 
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