Okay you walk into a store, with mostly women's clothing. But you're a newbie and you don't know how to open the conversation. Well here's one that works great. Go up to one of the female cashiers and say "Hey, I wanted to know, if I wanted to get something nice for my girlfriend, what would I get?". This worked great for me tonight, my only problem is I was stuck on the opener and didn't really change the subject. This opener will amount to the cashier girl showing interest and asking questions.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
A good opener I discovered when I was out tonight.
- Thread starter ElStud
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
daygameguy
Master Don Juan
That's a nice opener but you are truly disqualifying yourself by saying you are engaged..ElStud said:
and btw, after 1419 posts, you still got stuck on your opener??? Aren't you a master don juan?? *cough*KJ *cough* ahem excuse me.
Nice opener. But I would replace 'girlfriend' with 'sister'.
A lot of people have problems being stuck after the opener. The best thing is to try change the subject. Pounding a dead horse is try hard and will lead you nowhere. So for example with this opener you can jump to how she seems to have a great sense of style, or to how she likes her job, about her other jobs. Remember to bust her balls on her answers, get into the ball busting frame.
A lot of people have problems being stuck after the opener. The best thing is to try change the subject. Pounding a dead horse is try hard and will lead you nowhere. So for example with this opener you can jump to how she seems to have a great sense of style, or to how she likes her job, about her other jobs. Remember to bust her balls on her answers, get into the ball busting frame.
Correct term is KBJ. Besides, call me whatever you like, say whatever you want about me. I've got a ton of FR's and numbers to back my game. And stuck on opener merely means you stay on the topic of the opener and don't CHANGE the topic to something else.daygameguy said:
ARrocket
Master Don Juan
r0cky said:
I'd have to agree....she won't give you her # if you have a "gf" (unless she's just that type
)Didn't David D discover this one? haha. Well anyway, just ask her if she likes her job or something...then you can branch into some C&F and build some rapport.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
This. Like I said I was stuck on the opener too and it's a very good idea to change the subject after you've opened the set.ARrocket said:I'd have to agree....she won't give you her # if you have a "gf" (unless she's just that type
Didn't David D discover this one? haha. Well anyway, just ask her if she likes her job or something...then you can branch into some C&F and build some rapport.
Grizou
Don Juan
No offence but why so complicated? Go into a shop with clothes for men, there are always plenty of female clerks too. Ask for some clothes for yourself instead making up a stupid lie.
They are paid to be friendly, of course its an easy opener...
They are paid to be friendly, of course its an easy opener...
Daddy The Pimp
Master Don Juan
Exactly . Thats what i was going to say .Grizou said:
They are PAID to help you . And they will help you , with no rejection for sure 100% .
If you want to sarge , open random girls on clubs , street , malls etc .
Better , change this opener . Ask the hottest girl on the shop , that is shopping there . Tell her , hey its my girl friend ( not girlfriend ) birthday , help me to get a nice dress for her because she has almost same body and same style as you have .
I wouldnt use it , but you can . If you like it .
Tboner
Don Juan
Change "my girlfriend" to "one of my girl friends". Then "If you were one of my GF's, what would you like?"... She'll start showing you what she likes and imagining that she is one of your GF's.... If she's super hot, she'll need a neg.... "Well, I should get a size bigger (or smaller) because she's taller (thinner, is bigger in the chest, smaller in the back, etc.) than you are."
I've had my best luck in transitioning into convo that elicits good feelings from her.... what she does for fun and excitement, vacations, romance, soulmate, etc.
I've had my best luck in transitioning into convo that elicits good feelings from her.... what she does for fun and excitement, vacations, romance, soulmate, etc.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
ARrocket
Master Don Juan
Solid advice.Tboner said:
Change the words and take out the word girfriend. Next time say Hey, I wanted to know, if I wanted to get something nice for a friend or one of my friends, what would I get? You are doomed if you use the word girlfriend. WHY? If you go after the girl in the store she already thinks you have a girlfriend and won't think too highly of you.