Okay you walk into a store, with mostly women's clothing. But you're a newbie and you don't know how to open the conversation. Well here's one that works great. Go up to one of the female cashiers and say "Hey, I wanted to know, if I wanted to get something nice for my girlfriend, what would I get?". This worked great for me tonight, my only problem is I was stuck on the opener and didn't really change the subject. This opener will amount to the cashier girl showing interest and asking questions.
Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
A good opener I discovered when I was out tonight.
- Thread starter ElStud
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
daygameguy
Master Don Juan
That's a nice opener but you are truly disqualifying yourself by saying you are engaged..ElStud said:
and btw, after 1419 posts, you still got stuck on your opener??? Aren't you a master don juan?? *cough*KJ *cough* ahem excuse me.
Nice opener. But I would replace 'girlfriend' with 'sister'.
A lot of people have problems being stuck after the opener. The best thing is to try change the subject. Pounding a dead horse is try hard and will lead you nowhere. So for example with this opener you can jump to how she seems to have a great sense of style, or to how she likes her job, about her other jobs. Remember to bust her balls on her answers, get into the ball busting frame.
A lot of people have problems being stuck after the opener. The best thing is to try change the subject. Pounding a dead horse is try hard and will lead you nowhere. So for example with this opener you can jump to how she seems to have a great sense of style, or to how she likes her job, about her other jobs. Remember to bust her balls on her answers, get into the ball busting frame.
Correct term is KBJ. Besides, call me whatever you like, say whatever you want about me. I've got a ton of FR's and numbers to back my game. And stuck on opener merely means you stay on the topic of the opener and don't CHANGE the topic to something else.daygameguy said:
ARrocket
Master Don Juan
r0cky said:
I'd have to agree....she won't give you her # if you have a "gf" (unless she's just that type
)Didn't David D discover this one? haha. Well anyway, just ask her if she likes her job or something...then you can branch into some C&F and build some rapport.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
This. Like I said I was stuck on the opener too and it's a very good idea to change the subject after you've opened the set.ARrocket said:I'd have to agree....she won't give you her # if you have a "gf" (unless she's just that type
Didn't David D discover this one? haha. Well anyway, just ask her if she likes her job or something...then you can branch into some C&F and build some rapport.
Grizou
Don Juan
No offence but why so complicated? Go into a shop with clothes for men, there are always plenty of female clerks too. Ask for some clothes for yourself instead making up a stupid lie.
They are paid to be friendly, of course its an easy opener...
They are paid to be friendly, of course its an easy opener...
Daddy The Pimp
Master Don Juan
Exactly . Thats what i was going to say .Grizou said:
They are PAID to help you . And they will help you , with no rejection for sure 100% .
If you want to sarge , open random girls on clubs , street , malls etc .
Better , change this opener . Ask the hottest girl on the shop , that is shopping there . Tell her , hey its my girl friend ( not girlfriend ) birthday , help me to get a nice dress for her because she has almost same body and same style as you have .
I wouldnt use it , but you can . If you like it .
Tboner
Don Juan
Change "my girlfriend" to "one of my girl friends". Then "If you were one of my GF's, what would you like?"... She'll start showing you what she likes and imagining that she is one of your GF's.... If she's super hot, she'll need a neg.... "Well, I should get a size bigger (or smaller) because she's taller (thinner, is bigger in the chest, smaller in the back, etc.) than you are."
I've had my best luck in transitioning into convo that elicits good feelings from her.... what she does for fun and excitement, vacations, romance, soulmate, etc.
I've had my best luck in transitioning into convo that elicits good feelings from her.... what she does for fun and excitement, vacations, romance, soulmate, etc.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
ARrocket
Master Don Juan
Solid advice.Tboner said:
Change the words and take out the word girfriend. Next time say Hey, I wanted to know, if I wanted to get something nice for a friend or one of my friends, what would I get? You are doomed if you use the word girlfriend. WHY? If you go after the girl in the store she already thinks you have a girlfriend and won't think too highly of you.