And it's hilarious when you complain there are no quality women but yet dump any that don't fvck on the first date. Not all women are skanks...I know it's hard to believe based on the type of women you normally go after tho.@Don732
4th or 5th date my ass.
Why would you take a chance investing $100-$150 on a woman through 4-5 dates, when she knows whether she will fuk you or not within first date (or before).
If a woman isn't down to let you smash BEFORE or after the first date, then there is no need for a second date.
You guys don't have any self value or worth, so you let the woman run sh!t and set the tone.
It is disgusting, quite frankly.
There are no hard and fast rules. Only people applying them without context that fvck themselves over running around yelling about mode one and being alpha.