"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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51 Year old chump

Lloyd.ambert

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How does an old man, with a big social circle, lots of date options, several sex options, fall into the trap of "oneitis"? Easy. He stops living an interesting life, and endeavors to include his lady in every aspect of his life. She absolutely refuses to commit to the old guy in an exclusive relationship. (She's old too, nearly my age) I am pretty darn sure that I am her only romantic partner. *tsk*

How to keep her? Back off of shared experiences, dates, trips, etc and focus on ringing her bell, but good, every chance that I get.

Why do I care? It is against everything taught in the seduction community. Don't know, perhaps some never outgrow being a chump. FWIW, she is a well educated person, independent, has the skin of a twenty year old, is an excellent lover, and has few vices.

Not asking for advice, I already know the answers, just sharing.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Die Hard

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Thanks for sharing, man. Keep your back straight!
 

ThreeStorms

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51 is not old...
Lloyd, do you have any clue why whe won't commit to you? Does she actually believe she still has a lot of options (maybe she does??)
 

speed dawg

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I plan on fully enjoying my life to the fullest when I'm 51. My kids should be out of my hair by then, hopefully I'll have a nice chunk of change stocked away. Start living life again.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Greasy Pig

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Awesome, Rollo! Go Tenderman!
That's the kind of life all men should aspire to as they age.
Great post.
 

Lloyd.ambert

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Viagra4Soul said:
Booya.

Game over. :kick:
Yep. Got a couple of options going on. I can still get interest, fun, hard smelly sex from different women, but just don't wanna. I always thought that using seduction lore as a means to an end, never intended to "stay in the game". *sigh* Oh, well, that ain't too bad. It can be rather fun getting over somebody. Thanks, all, and I'll bookmark your link, Rollo.
 
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