"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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51 Year old chump

Lloyd.ambert

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How does an old man, with a big social circle, lots of date options, several sex options, fall into the trap of "oneitis"? Easy. He stops living an interesting life, and endeavors to include his lady in every aspect of his life. She absolutely refuses to commit to the old guy in an exclusive relationship. (She's old too, nearly my age) I am pretty darn sure that I am her only romantic partner. *tsk*

How to keep her? Back off of shared experiences, dates, trips, etc and focus on ringing her bell, but good, every chance that I get.

Why do I care? It is against everything taught in the seduction community. Don't know, perhaps some never outgrow being a chump. FWIW, she is a well educated person, independent, has the skin of a twenty year old, is an excellent lover, and has few vices.

Not asking for advice, I already know the answers, just sharing.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Die Hard

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Thanks for sharing, man. Keep your back straight!
 

ThreeStorms

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51 is not old...
Lloyd, do you have any clue why whe won't commit to you? Does she actually believe she still has a lot of options (maybe she does??)
 

speed dawg

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I plan on fully enjoying my life to the fullest when I'm 51. My kids should be out of my hair by then, hopefully I'll have a nice chunk of change stocked away. Start living life again.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Greasy Pig

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Awesome, Rollo! Go Tenderman!
That's the kind of life all men should aspire to as they age.
Great post.
 

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Viagra4Soul said:
Booya.

Game over. :kick:
Yep. Got a couple of options going on. I can still get interest, fun, hard smelly sex from different women, but just don't wanna. I always thought that using seduction lore as a means to an end, never intended to "stay in the game". *sigh* Oh, well, that ain't too bad. It can be rather fun getting over somebody. Thanks, all, and I'll bookmark your link, Rollo.
 
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